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Old 11-20-2002, 09:12 AM
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In the package you'll find the rover, the transmitter, and a manual. If you bought batteries with your order, they should be inserted in the three holes for them to fit into. The remote takes one 9 volt battery, while the rover itself takes two CR-123A-type batteries. These batteries may not be at the corner store, but they should be easy enough to find since they are standard camera batteries. If in doubt, you can always get a pair with your order.

Specifications

Remote Dimensions
· Length: 100 mm (~4 inches)
· Width: 66 mm (~2.5 inches)
· Thickness: 25 mm (~1 inch)

Rover Dimensions
· Chassis Length: 102 mm (~4 inches)
· Chassis Width: 37.5 mm (~1.5 inches)
· Overall Height: 42 mm (~1.65 inches)

Operating Range
· 60 m (200 feet) - Line of sight
· 30 m (100 feet) - Average building, distance may vary

Battery Life
100 minutes+ continuous run of both tracks

Setup
The Desktop Rover is easy to set up--just but it the batteries and turn it on! The rover has a small switch on the back, and a tiny red LED tells you it's on. The remote has a switch labeled Snooze and Groove, and a light. The remote has three sticks, the right and left for independent control of each track, and the middle one to play a game of IR laser tag. Unfortunately, I didn't have two rovers, so I couldn't try out the laser tag. The antenna on the remote can be extended to about two feet for a controlling distance of about 100 feet in normal conditions, and about 300 feet for line of sight distance.



Performance
How does the Desktop Rover perform in the real world? Pretty good. The rover handles well on most terrain, as long as you aren't constantly turning on carpet. As this is a caterpillar drive vehicle, the tracks do tend to come off on carpet, but I don't perceive it as a major problem. My first major problem did come up with the noise, though. For the rover to maintain its torque it has to be geared down significantly, and this produces a loud noise. Though this doesn't affect performance, it is distracting.




The rover maneuvers very well, and control of the individual tracks makes it very precise. On a surface with good traction the rover can climb a 45° angle, but much more and it begins to slip. Subsequently, the rover can't climb as well on a surface with less traction. Part of the trouble may be with the weight distribution. The rover has its two motors situated towards the back, while its batteries are towards the front. If the batteries were more centrally located the rover might be able to climb steeper "terrain."



Using It
I used the rover in a number of different locations. Most places I used it were carpeted, so the tracks had a tendency to come off; but if I kept it straight and didn't turn consistently, it worked fine. It can handle inclines and has good traction on most surfaces. It's just a really fun thing to drive!


Computer Control Software and Interface
Another option available for the Desktop Rover is the Telecommander Interface. This consists of Java-based software and either a serial or USB interface cable. The remote has a headphone-style jack on the top where the serial or USB cable plugs in. While the cable is inserted, you can't operate the rover from the remote.



The included software installs easily, and since it is Java it works on PCs and Macs (OS X only). If you are connected to the Internet, the program automatically checks for a newer version, and in my case a newer version was found and installed.

The software has a variety of different modes, including Server, Manual, Remote, and Default. In Default mode you are able to drag the command block, one for each combination of track on/track off, to the playfield and set the duration of each one. You can then press the PLAY button and the Desktop Rover will execute your commands. In Manual mode, each command block you click is executed immediately and continues for one second.



The remaining two modes are interesting--they allow you to control your rover over the Internet using TCP/IP. You must set one computer with the interface cable and remote into Server mode, and the machine you wish to use to control it with into Remote mode. For Remote mode, you must know the IP address of the server machine. Plantraco has set up a version of this running on its website, using a Java applet instead of the Telecommander software. You can see the demo at http://www.plantraco.com/telecommander.html.




Ratings Defense
I give Plantraco's Desktop Rover 4.5 Geekheads for Quality, only because I thought a bit more could be done to keep the tracks on the rover. Also, sometimes the rover would go as soon as I turned it on, but stopped as soon as I turned the remote on. This was probably radio inference that was blocked out when I turned the remote on. The rover does comply with FCC Part 15, so it has to accept radio interference.

The Desktop Rover gets 5 Geekheads for Geekness because it's just a cool geek toy! With the Telecommander interface and software, you can program it and control it remotely. The Rover is a very cool thing to show off. Don't want to take it somewhere to show it off? Set it up with the Telecommander and a Web cam.

The Telecommander software gets a perfect rating as well. The software is great, and there are great features. If you're going to get the Desktop Rover, get the Telecommander, too--it's a great addition.


hope this helps a little...

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Old 11-20-2002, 09:19 AM
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some extras :

http://www.hobbytron.net/product1042.html

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Old 11-20-2002, 11:11 AM
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Very cool review I have found if you Back up a steep incline or if you want to climb over a 1 inch foam block.The rover does not tip over or you can climb a steeper incline.I know how to fix the track problem the front wheel needs cogs on it also like the rear wheel.Then the track will not come off.
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Old 11-20-2002, 02:02 PM
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I have found if you Back up a steep incline or if you want to climb over a 1 inch foam block.The rover does not tip over or you can climb a steeper incline.I know how to fix the track problem the front wheel needs cogs on it also like the rear wheel.Then the track will not come off.
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Ah yes,backing up over obstacles does work better. That is because of the motors being mounted toward the rear of the Rover. I put a metal bar in that hollow area in the front of the chassis. It doesn't slow anything down and it helps the forward climbing a bit, but it still can flip.

Great observation on the track. I agree that a cog in the front would solve the track coming off.
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Old 11-20-2002, 06:41 PM
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This text isnīt written by me - I only brought this to our forum.

The climbing problem exists on my digi combat, too. One solution is to put some weight in front of it like you say before or you make the suspension mod :

http://www.geocities.jp/s_lx60/cd/make.html

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Old 11-20-2002, 09:45 PM
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Cool webpage I did not use babble fish to translate.But with the photos you could see that he made each wheel independent with a shock wire.It could be done to the Rover I just took the side piece off my rover it just slides off.Same with the wheels now just have to find 3 extra wheel for each side of rover. The extra wheels might solve the track coming off problem.See photo.
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Old 11-20-2002, 10:33 PM
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A drilling machine, a screw, some round plastik (ABS) and a knife or sharpened screwdriver you need to make wheels on your own - just needs some time...

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Old 11-21-2002, 04:35 AM
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for the camera do you need a tv tuner card for the computer ? i want to set it up as a sentry and remote to it and check the place out my cat would freak andi get to torment it from another computer(muhahahah)
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You could get a TV tuner card.Or Plantraco susgest the hand held Casio TV.They sell them for $89.95 at Circuit City. Or you can take one of your old TV and use the Bowtie antenna that came with it and tune to UHF 16 or 19.I will be getting my camera next week I am going to use my 5" black and white TV for awhile.
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Old 11-22-2002, 12:57 AM
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Racemonster505, I use an ATI All-in-Wonder video card, you don't need one. I have a Casio LCD TV and for playing around the house, it is the best! The tuner in those LCD TVs are very stable and portable as well. The only reason I use the ATI card is because I aready use a PC for controlling the Rovers. I may just hardwire controllers direct to the transmitters because I'm getting complains about the Rovers lagging a bit using the Telecommander software.

I would stick with any available TV you have.
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the reason i ask is i want to be able to control it over the net and see where im going i do have a small hand held tv color casio even but that would be sooo cool chasing the cat form some place else
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BillyBonz, have you got good results with that card? Because the reception is great on manually tuned pocket TVs I've tried, but the digitally tuned haven't been nearly as good. Does it offer fine grain tuning? Thanks!

Btw, I also put a lead weight in that front cavity!
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tinyrc, there is no fine tuning with my ATI card. I agree the manual tuning is better. The way I got the best picture was to fine tune the video transmitter instead of the receiver or the card in my case.

I was quite happy with the weights myself. The battlefield I'm using now does not have many areas to climb, it is more of a maze. Once I get done with the current changes I'm working on I'll share some pix with you all.
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tinyrc, there is no fine tuning with my ATI card. I agree the manual tuning is better. The way I got the best picture was to fine tune the video transmitter instead of the receiver or the card in my case.
Was this w/ the Plantraco cam, or the other one you had mentioned?
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Was this w/ the Plantraco cam, or the other one you had mentioned?
This is not the Plantranco camera. I'll post some pix of the transmitter and camera I'm using now....after I get back from Da Bears game. WEEEEEE
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