
12-11-2009, 05:21 AM
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best performing body...
hi folks... did a search and didn't find anything that is related to my upcoming question... what body would be best for racing? i figure the mazda 787 and porsche 962 on the top of my head... would love to know what the others like and/or prefer... thanks in advance...
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12-11-2009, 07:56 PM
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that's sort of a strange question when you're referring to dNaNo.... 'best for racing' as in... which is less likely to get damaged? which is best in reference to aerodynamics? since each body is specific to its dNaNo chassis, then i'd assume you want more info about each model, or.....?
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12-11-2009, 08:11 PM
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to me, the question most commonly refers to; stability, control, etc. susceptibility to damage is irrelevant in racing unless your the type to worry about damaging the body to begin with. i don't put a car on the track unless i'm willing to break something. just comes with the territory. aerodynamics at this scale? i think weight balance plays a far bigger role. each body is well, not to much different than a mini-z in that you need to change some parts in order to fit the track width and wheelbase. trackwidth and wheelbase is always an important factor in choosing a race body as well as they both will affect the handling of your car. if you think of dnano's in terms of mini-z's it really fairly simple. you have a selection of bodies to choose from that all fit into preset trackwidths and wheelbases. the components involved differ but the concept has been around for a very long time.
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01-08-2010, 12:15 AM
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I'm also wondering this. What is the most competitive chassis/body out there? What are people using to win races?
-Jer
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01-08-2010, 03:18 AM
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what car is best for a layout will depend upon the layout on the circuit you'll be racing. as everyone knows, the driver is the most important part of winning but - for example - if you were running on our last layout ( Art Deco) and you had a Porsche 911 GT3, you'd lose and lose badly to cars with a wide track (Nissan Fairlady Z, Lamborghini Murcielago, etc). on the current layout ( Patchwork), all cars can be competitive but the nimble cars (Porsche 917k, Lamborghini Countach) will have a distinct advantage do to their ability for precision cornering on a slower, more technical layout.
if you're asking which cars are best all around racers? you'd have to go with the GT style cars: Mazda 787b, Nissan Fairlady Z, Aston Martin Racing DBR9, etc as they are the most stable cars in the line. JMHO
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01-08-2010, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NanoTrax
if you're asking which cars are best all around racers? you'd have to go with the GT style cars: Mazda 787b, Nissan Fairlady Z, Aston Martin Racing DBR9, etc as they are the most stable cars in the line. JMHO 
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NanoTrax
Thanks for all the information; very valuable. I'm quite aware that the driver is the most important part of the equation; I've been driving Mini-Z's for long enough to know how bad I am
I just simply want to get something that is a good basis to practice with!
-Jer
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01-08-2010, 12:38 PM
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With Mini-Z MM vs RM makes a big difference. Is that the same with dNaNo? What have people discovered?
-Jer
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01-12-2010, 02:25 PM
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Is the Nissan GT-R competitive?
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01-12-2010, 03:23 PM
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Hi,
Not to butt in, but I did some analysis on the wheel hubs and from my experience (if you run a big track, i.e. fast, wide and sweeping), wider is better since more stable (including lowest CG (height in this case) as well!)
The widest (front) tracks are in order, taking rear width into consideration as well. Note these bodies are the lowest (height) available too:
1. Ferrari FXX: Front 19F/ Rear 20R
2. (tied with #1) Aston Martin DBR09: Front 19F/ Rear 20R
3. Motul Z 2007: Front 19F/ Rear 19F
4. Ferrari Enzo: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
5. Porsche 962C: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
6. Mazda 787B: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
7. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640: Front 18F/ Rear 19R
Looking at Q'on's (Nanotrax) post about the Z here and on his site, this car looks good from a spec perspective. It's nice to have same width front and rear for a fast, large, sweeping track. it would make for a balanced feeling car IMO.
This is the car of my choice and I can provide my feedback on this car when it arrives (projected delivery date from Kyosho America is this Friday).
Mind you, it's nice to have slightly narrower width in front as it helps with weight transfer too. Either Lorne or Q'on I'm sure can provide more info. Mine is based on my years of R/C experience and motorsports (car racing), not actual dNaNo experience.
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01-12-2010, 08:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinister_Y
Hi,
Not to butt in, but I did some analysis on the wheel hubs and from my experience (if you run a big track, i.e. fast, wide and sweeping), wider is better since more stable (including lowest CG (height in this case) as well!)
The widest (front) tracks are in order, taking rear width into consideration as well. Note these bodies are the lowest (height) available too:
1. Ferrari FXX: Front 19F/ Rear 20R
2. (tied with #1) Aston Martin DBR09: Front 19F/ Rear 20R
3. Motul Z 2007: Front 19F/ Rear 19F
4. Ferrari Enzo: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
5. Porsche 962C: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
6. Mazda 787B: Front 18F/ Rear 20R
7. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640: Front 18F/ Rear 19R
Looking at Q'on's (Nanotrax) post about the Z here and on his site, this car looks good from a spec perspective. It's nice to have same width front and rear for a fast, large, sweeping track. it would make for a balanced feeling car IMO.
This is the car of my choice and I can provide my feedback on this car when it arrives (projected delivery date from Kyosho America is this Friday).
Mind you, it's nice to have slightly narrower width in front as it helps with weight transfer too. Either Lorne or Q'on I'm sure can provide more info. Mine is based on my years of R/C experience and motorsports (car racing), not actual dNaNo experience.
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Awesome post.. but is the Nissan GT-R the same as the Motul Z?
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01-12-2010, 10:27 PM
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I'll answer your question from the standpoint of racing on the kyosho track that the HobbyTown's have as that is where I race my cars. So far I've driven 8 different dnanos( Porsche 917 K, Porsche 962 C LH, MAZDA 787B, Aston Martin Racing DBR9, ENZO Ferrari, NISSAN SKYLINE, MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION X, and Ferrari FXX. Without a doubt the mazda 787B was the best right out of the box with no changes. The least amount of hop and good fast response. The car got even better with the ball diff and bearings installed. Next best was a tie between the DBR9 and the two Ferrari's
I own the Porsche 962 C LH, and ENZO Ferrari. Of those two the Porsche needed extensive mods to eliminate the hop.
Again this is only on the HT carpet track and your mileage may vary.
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01-13-2010, 12:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyC
Awesome post.. but is the Nissan GT-R the same as the Motul Z?
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2 totally different cars.... check the Optional Parts & Technical Data @ Kyosho's dNaNo Support Page for info on all the various dNaNo
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01-13-2010, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NanoTrax
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Awesome, that is the information I was looking for....
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04-25-2010, 05:20 AM
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My son's Enzo body's front mount part broke off today at HTUSA track. Unlike other bodies, the Enzo's front attachment part doesn't rest up against the front bumper. As a result, after a few medium crashes on the hard surface, the front clip thingy gave in and broke off. I used Gorilla glue to put it back together and put some plastic pieces to fill the gap between the part and the front bumper. I hope it holds up. It is such a nice looking body but it is not as sturdy as other bodies... My corvette lost its front tow hook today. And one of the attachment points of the rear wing came off. I glued it back on. Compared to those two, Murcielago body is built like a tank.
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04-25-2010, 06:42 AM
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the ENZO body is tank like as there will be little breakage or cracks in the body itself, but there's a lot of space between the mount and the actual body so the mounts aren't very good. when you get a new one, strengthen it with acrylic or epoxy b4 u put it into action.
the corvette's mirrors and spoiler need strengthening b4 they see action as well. personally, i just consider the mirrors expendable if you're racing. you can make them last a while longer, but eventually they will come off.
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