Aluma-Tech CNC machining dNaNo Parts

arch2b · #1 06-22-2009, 09:15 PM

Aluma-Tech CNC machining

Currently available at RealTracks

Aluma-Tech_Moons_Auto_Scale_Wheel

Aluma-Tech_Centerline_Auto_Scale_Wheel

Aluma-Tech_5_Spoke_with_bolts_Auto_Scale_Wheel

Aluma-Tech_5_Spoke_Oval_Auto_Scale_Wheel

Aluma-Tech_5_Spoke_Auto_Scale_Wheel

MrNanoTrax · #2 06-23-2009, 03:17 AM

so.... basically i can't use these rims if the surface isn't ideal for the ASC tires? u gotta be selling tires for this. i'd order them but i want to actually be able to USE them on any surface. when are the tires coming out?

RealTracks · #3 06-23-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoTrax

so.... basically i can't use these rims if the surface isn't ideal for the ASC tires? u gotta be selling tires for this. i'd order them but i want to actually be able to USE them on any surface. when are the tires coming out?

These are the Autoscale tire collection of wheels. Standard direct replacement aluminum wheels will be available. They will obviously require no offset change and be compatible with all currently available dNaNo tires. I believe Mike also has wider wheels in the works that will accept wider standard style tires.

arch2b · #4 06-23-2009, 07:57 PM

we need to petition pn racing to make thier line of tires in the autoscale size.

lornecherry · #5 06-24-2009, 02:03 AM

As soon as I get a hold of a Hudy Tire Truer, I should be able to make foams for these that will work on all surfaces, and probably quite well on the Realtracks surface. If there's enough interest, I might be inclined to do it sooner, although I find the whole d'Nano "fitting parts" somewhat cumbersome for those of us who are used to the Mini-Z interchanging of parts between cars.

MrNanoTrax · #6 06-24-2009, 11:28 AM

dNaNo is intentionally proprietory i think... its a collector's item MORE than it is an r/c model imo. but yeah, foams would be cool... how long do foams last running on rubber surfaces like the RCP tracks? thats the closest thing to our tracks surface i think

lornecherry · #7 06-24-2009, 11:16 PM

Nano, there are many grades of foam, hard foam lasts a long time, soft can get chewed up in a month or so. That said, the d'nano may be harder on tires (because it can generate so much lateral g) or not hard at all (because the mass is so low) ... I just don't really know, but I doubt wear will be an issue for all but the most serious racer, especially on your foam track, which is easier on tires than carpet.

lornecherry · #8 06-24-2009, 11:27 PM

just ordered two sets; Moons and Centreline -- anxious to see how the cars drive with a slightly heavier wheel (perhaps make it a little less skittish and add a touch of traction). They do look nice too.

arch2b · #9 06-28-2009, 10:46 AM

quick reply... the wheels i received are of high quality. well worth the cost if you ask me. i have not had the opportunity to use them just yet. the detail is very fine, the lines are crisp and clean. the finish is very nice as well.

i don't have a very accurate scale to demonstrate the weight but they feel very light but i'm sure thats more to do with the miniscule scale.

MROSS 1 · #10 06-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lornecherry

As soon as I get a hold of a Hudy Tire Truer, I should be able to make foams for these that will work on all surfaces, and probably quite well on the Realtracks surface. If there's enough interest, I might be inclined to do it sooner, although I find the whole d'Nano "fitting parts" somewhat cumbersome for those of us who are used to the Mini-Z interchanging of parts between cars.

Loerncherry, Can you call: (805) 922-0881
or email me: mike_ross_558@hotmail.com

Like to talk about tires with you. Thanks in advance,

Mike

lornecherry · #11 07-20-2009, 01:15 PM

...well, it appears the "Autoscale" tires are somewhat useless for real racing as the rubber is way too hard ... so I can't really test the two sets of Aluma-tech rims I have -- the ridge in the middle makes them difficult/impossible to make tires for, or to properly mount the stock tires. When I did mount and glue Atomic 20 degree tires, the rims worked quite well ... smooth and with a little more weight, making the cars less jittery -- you are trading some speed for better handling -- a good thing in the d'NaNo's case.

I looked on the both the web site and ebay, where the Aluma-Techs are advertised, and didn't see a 19R sized rear tire for the non-Autoscale tires (Moon or Centerline)?

The reason I'm after those particular sizes/shapes are two-fold.

1) 19R stock rear rims, when mounted on the front, give the best combination of handling/traction that I have tried. They also fully cover the kingpin (which you need to shorten with a Dremmel tool), helping slightly to keep impurities out of the hub. The 20R size requires too much body clearance up front; the 19R stock rims fit my Porsche perfectly in the front.

2) the Moon or Centerline Aluma-Tech's are "clsoed" in that they have no spokes, thereby also keeping stuff out of the hub.

So, would it be possible to get a set of 4-19Rs Moons and/or Centerlines that are the same width as the factory wheels? Also, it would be nice to source a silver wheel screw to match, as that would look much nicer than the black one that comes with the chassis.

I do like the look and quality feel of these wheels and the price seems decent for what they are. The testing I've done so far has been positive even though I'm quite hard on things and put the cars through a lot of handling "drills" on both carpet and foam. And I'm not afraid to say when something doesn't work well either (like the Autoscale). But using wider, rear tires up front is a proving to be a very useful handling mod and does not destroy the scale look too much as most of the width is hidden.

There are other mods to the front end that are helping slightly, and I will share those once I finish testing everything.

Marcro · #12 07-28-2009, 04:04 PM

I've been in communication with the manufacturer of these wheels and he has theme available for stock tire use as well as scale use. He can even have theme anodized in colors if you wish. Here is my Murcielago with the AVM alloy's.

I like the second set of rims you posted there arch. Those would look nice on the Porsche 911 GT3.

Marcro · #13 07-28-2009, 04:05 PM

The rivets on those are a nice touch!

patrick38 · #14 08-14-2009, 01:53 PM

do the rims thake the new pn tires ?????

Jellis · #15 09-19-2009, 06:41 PM

Well I got tired of waiting so I made myself a set of aluminium rear wheels and wow what a difference in handling.
They did exactly what I thought they would do... Make the car tight or under steer. I'm no engineer but my thoughts where that the plastic wheels as flimsy as they are where tucking under on the outside rear corner wich in turn reduced the contact patch of that tire.
With the aluminum wheels I was able to go with a softer compound in the front that I couldn't run with the plastic wheels in the rear the car would just spin out.

The car went from running 4.5's - 4.7's to running 4.2's to 4.4's A good .3 per lap the car was stuck like glue but a little twitchy I'll have to find maybe a little harder compound between the atomic 25's and 35's

More grip front and rear is a good thing right... LOL