Ya yur right. I just hate it when everything decides 2 break break all at once. I found out what was wrong with both any way. With the supra ya it was the users side

thanx aperson. Still not sure why it didn't work the first time. So I get 2 keep that one

unlike the Rsx

It wasn't the angle I pointed the controller at it at all. The wire from the batterie wasn't getting enough curent, so when I put it on the ground again there just wasn't enough curent strong enough to get going. So I'm going 2 trade it in tomorrow. Thanx again guys.