you guys are to much. haha
let me set the record straight about the Phast Motors for all you inquiring minds here.
i think the motors are about equal to a 3.6, could be better but i'm guessing off watching it take off. the torque however, seemed ridculiously high for such a high speed motor. so now not only do you get a good speed, but you get a quick take-off boost. great for the straightaway sections of the track.
RCmod is sending Namuna a few test motors and he's going to do his speed and incline test on them. then we can all see the exact speed and torque of the motors. the company Phast Motors is gearing up like perfection and coming out with all types of products.
i personally have seen the Phast Motors brand motor do some crazy informal torque tests and i was sold. one test was: two cars head2head. both Shens with full throttle going. one with a pink endbell 3.8 and one with the PM motor. the PM motor didn't hesitate to push the 3.8 right off the table! now, i know a 3.8 doesn't have much torque so this test should be based on pure speed ratio vs. speed ratio, but the PM motor seemed to have about the same speed, but with a tremendous amount of torque.
this test hasn't been done against a perfection 3.8 and the test is very informal, but i'm just relaying what i saw with my own eyes.
i will post more as i find it out. i do personally highly recommend the motors. and you guys know i know what i'm talking about.