Can somebody tell me an easy duell cell mod please?

RobotGT · #1 04-24-2003, 10:24 PM

I'm a newbie and I was wondering if somebody could help me by giving me a duel cell mod for a microsizer that I could do. I am not good at soddering, so that my be tough to work around. Also It would help if you could give me charging directions too . Thanks in advance! Sorry for the specific request, I'm not that good with microsizers yet

ShadowMage · #2 04-24-2003, 11:06 PM

try the Layman's Dual Cell mod. It won't last as long as doing the normal dual cell but it runs pretty much the same.

http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread....81c42de93e18c4

Calsonic_racer · #3 04-24-2003, 11:34 PM

here a method but it may be a little time consuming.... first find directions for the external dual cell (the easiest) and instead of soddering you instead use electrical tape. that way my first ever dual cell because i had no solder at that moment but in the end the electrical tape works just fine. if you want some directions ill give it to you. first get your second battery and get 2 wires and strip the insulation off the tips both on the top and bottom. next get your microsizer and bend or take off the negative plate that holds the battery NOT THE WHOLE THING JUST THE PART WHEN IT TOUCHED THE BOTTOM OF THE BATTERY. you will need the charging plate but not the tab that touches the negative side of the battery. the reason why you do this is because if the battery in the car touches the negative tab it wont be a dual cell anymore instead an extra .2 volts which sux big ballz haha. anyway now get one of your stripped wires (preferabbly black for negative and red for positive) right now get the black wire and get a small piece of tape and tape it to the negative charge plate so they are touching and connected. next get your postive wire and tape it to the bottom of one of your batteries (thats right put the POSITIVE wire on the NEGATIVE side of the battery) if you dont understand trust me you will thank me later. WOW UR MORE THAN HALFWAY THERE. now put the battery with the wire on the bottom inside the car GENTLY so the wire wont slip out of the bottom of the battery or the wire on the negative charge plate. it wont fit all the way in so dont force it just push it in enough to get the pcb and the cover on. (preferabblly beggers cant be choosers if you want this done quick and no re-doings just put the pcb on and electrical tape it because it may take 4-10 tries to get the pcb on and the cover on w/o making the wires slip out. it may not look that good w/ the electrical tape but damn ur gettin the easiest duall cell ever. now that thats done put the car frame on and stick the 2 wires out the back window. (you might have to do a hack here and a hack there with an exacto knife to make the battery fit in and out of the fram if u want to switch covers or check on the cars. but if you got a soldering gun just solder off some plastice till there is more than enough room to fit the battery and some extra space for the taped up wires.) now that the frame on u MUST MAKE SURE YOU KNO WUT COLOR THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE WIRES ARE or else it wont work. now place the positive wire thats connected tot he bottom of the inside battery on the positive side of the external battery and tape it. next get the negative wire thats connected to the negative charge plate and tape it to the bottom of the external battery. now tape up a both top and bottom batteries to double secure them. now tape it around the battery (basicly so its all black) but make sure its not TOO big to fit out the frame and in the frame but personally i think you should just stick to one frame per car unless you want all your frames to have a mest up back window. so choose your frame wisely that way you can just stick the 2 wires out the window b4 you put it on the battery. anyways now that your batteries are taped in series (positive yo negative to positive to negative) which we did

guess what?? WE R DONE. now for the charger. this here will cost you 3 dollars MAX. take a trip to radio shack and buy a 4 AA battery holder with a positive and negative wire on it which costs about 2.00 dollars with tax. but if they dont have a 4 AA holder with the 2 wires just buy one without them and buy the connector that connects the the batteries to the positive and negative wires. its like a snap on. now that you have your 4 AA battery holders w/ the 2 wires open up your microsizer controller and take off the charging pad by ripping it off from the pcb that way you have 2 extended wires on it. now this is the guessing part unless you kno which wire on the charging pad is positive and negative. now tie together the positive wire from the battery holder to the charging pad and the negative wire to the negative wire on the charging pad. now put your dual celled car on the pad and press up on the controller 2 see if it runs. make sure that if your battery holder had a on and off switch its pressed on (personal story there haha). if it doesnt run then switch the wires around. dont worry you will kno when its charging or not from the SUPER SPEED SOUND lol. when its all figured out tape the wires that were tied so they dont brake off and tape it to the charger so its more handy and durable. NOW WE ARE ALL DONE AND YOUR DUAL CELL IS READY. if you have all the parts for the car it should only take about 20 minutes MAX. the charger should take 5 mins MAX. now now your car wont be superman so dont run it off the table or hit walls at MAX speed because the wires may slip out. (they seem to take it pretty good but on the safe side just be careful) have fun

Calsonic_racer · #4 04-24-2003, 11:35 PM

that is one long @$$ post from me haha my bad srry

ShadowMage · #5 04-25-2003, 12:09 AM

no offense but...the layman's dual cell is quicker and simpler. Buy the batteries, remove from shrink wrapping, bend tabs, put into bit, race.

Calsonic_racer · #6 04-25-2003, 01:07 AM

personally yes it is better like ALOT BETTER but the down side is run time. you can fully charge a tri cell in 1 min and 30 seconds but you only get 20 seconds of NOS, TWIN TURBO, METHANOL, FULL TANK OF GAS, OF SUPER SPEED then you slow down to a normal 1 cell car for like 2 mins. so unless im dragging i usually like to play with my dual cell cars because i get super speed for about 10 mins with 200 mah nimh batts. plus damnit man 10 bux for batteries?? lets just say this: there not all that they are cracked up to be. i expected more like 2 mins at least of ULTRA MEGA SUPER SONIC SPEED instead of 20 seconds.

RobotGT · #7 04-25-2003, 10:17 AM

I have a broken microsizer and I ripped just about everything out of it for spare parts and to put lego wheels on the spare knuckles so I had an extra battery so I figured I'd do a deul cell mod. So I don't care if it's over rated, I just want a good mod to do. *EDIT* Can I use the cell from my old one for laymans mod or do I need to buy the kind he mentioned? And can I charge it with my remote still?

hogjowlz · #8 04-25-2003, 10:51 AM

look man just buy a 9$ soldering kit and practice on a broken vcr or phone or stereo. take pieces of wire and solder them to connections until you feel more comfortable. it really isnt that difficult.

charging: no you cant charge a dual cell with a stock controller.

however you can buy a 3rd aa holder from radio shack for a dollar when you go pick up your soldering kit. its easier to install than the batteries into the car. you can do the laymans mod but most who have done it dont get the same voltage.
as far as taping the cells together. hahahahaha

ib311 · #9 04-25-2003, 10:58 AM

get a soldering iron that's 15 watts or less so you have less of a chance of frying your board or your batteries.

#10 04-25-2003, 10:59 AM

here's how I did mine:
CaboWabo's Dual Cell

hogjowlz · #11 04-25-2003, 11:12 AM

ya listen to the pimp

and i disagree with ib311 on this. you want the iron to be pretty hot so it melts the solder quicker.

my friend has a nice weller iron and the tip broke so i had to use his crappier lower voltage one(still nicer than the radioshack stuff) and it sucked because you had to hold the iron on the part longer to melt the solder. the weller iron rules. i suggest all of you freaks who solder on a semi regular basis get one.

but i guess if you have never soldered you may be intimidated by a bigger iron.

RobotGT · #12 04-25-2003, 02:18 PM

My dad already has a solder, I'm just not very good with it on small peices because last time I tried to solder the steering wires back on I trashed my board. As long as I don't have to solder anything to the board I'll be fine.

hogjowlz · #13 04-25-2003, 03:15 PM

just dont use big blobs of solder. melt just a little on the tip of the iron and a little on the part.

Calsonic_racer · #14 04-27-2003, 08:41 PM

what do u guys prefer? a soddering iron or soddering gun? my dad has a 100 watt soddering gun and i think its too powerful i mean it melts the damn sodder in 1 second and i get 2 much. either that or i need sodder tips cuz after 4 cars i have NEVER GOTTEN AND INTERNAL DUAL CELL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! plz can someone give tips or give there opinion on which 2 use?

#15 04-28-2003, 10:52 AM

I like using an iron - the gun always got me mad cuz I'd have to squeeze the trigger for 5 minutes before I could start to solder.
with a plugged in iron, its just hot and ready - kinda like a "woman of the night" lol