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Old 12-27-2002, 02:18 AM
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Some more info...

QFM is a poster I have seen about and/or a dealer of parts and mods (mind is fuzzy... 2:30am)

Lxx is short for Lxx char-G "the best of the knock-offs" according to most opinions I have heard...


Finished the mod tonight and have learned ALOT... hehe... (all details below pertain ONLY to my knowledge of performing the controller antennae replacement once on an Lxx brand 45Mhz controller). I'll try to put as much detail here as I can manage before catching some Zzzzz's.

1.) What to be aware of going into this project:
- The controllers seemed to have been designed to explode on opening by some sadistic "engineer" in China... The having been said it is an amazingly simple (although frustrating) procedure.

- most of my frustration spawned from actually removing the PCB (Printed circuit board) from the "top-side" of the controller once it was opened.

- I had to remove the PCB due to a wire breaking from the solder on the top-side.

- most of the wires within are very short AND delicate... I solved this by replacing both battery leads and the antennae lead with 24gauge insulated solid-core wire (the stock wires seemed to be about 64gauge twisted-core)

- Make certain to wait for the solder to set... few things set off such a solid string of profanities then FINALLY getting the solder just right and then letting go of the wire too soon and having to do it all over again.

2.) The antennae... learned alot here in retrospect:
- Damn BestBuy for not having any digital cameras in stock today... this would be SO much easier to describe with pictures...

- Think hard about how you will fasten the telescoping antennae securely to the case. I thought I had it all figured out until I had the case open and realized I didn't have the foggiest idea.

- I ended up taking the TA (telescoping antennae) into the case and using the screw-hole that it was originally attached to the phone base that it came from and threading one of the internal antennae clips through that with the other prong wrapped around the TA.

- I then used a liberal amount of elmers glue (didn't want to use epoxy or such and make the mod TOO permanent...) inside the case around the TA (this is not a solution either as I have already broken the elmers seal when testing the stability of its hold on the TA *shrug*)

- most important in the securing of the TA to the case is a snug fit of the actual case shell around the antennae AND a solid hold inside from the antennae prongs there...

3.) Re-assembly of the Controller case:
- after getting over my solder jitters (haven't soldered in years and was never a "pro" by any standards) and securing the antennae the hardest part was actually REassembling the controller case.

- If you do not have a wire break and have no need to unfasten the PCB from the "top" of the case then DO NOT unscrew the PCB... it was a nightmare to reassemble due to the plastic toggle pieces coming out of place

- Now IF you do have to remove the controller PCB (or simply want to for the experience) then learn this piece from this post if nothing else: slide the car-charging dock free from BOTH sides of the case shell... I did not due this until after several frustrating minutes. What can I say... it was late


On to the controller mod results now:

I am SOOO happy that I did this mod (and I will do it again on my 4 channel booster control (when I actually order one that is))!

Range is MUCH increased... so much so in fact, that I have performed the "no visible antennae on the car" mod as well and still have at least 20ft of clear range (can't test further tonight without risking waking up my wife )

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If ya want to know more or have suggestions because I have done this completely back-asswards, then by all means ask and tell... too tired to believe even 3/4 of the above makes any sense... :P
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:25 AM
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Re: I'm a Newbie.. Duh.

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What do some of these acronyms (or whatever) mean?

QFM...

QFM is short for Quest For Madness. http://www.questformadness.com/ has 30+ common mods and instructions for Bits. It's a real good site check it out.
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Old 12-27-2002, 01:13 PM
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Hehe

Thanks for the correction Monkey... I did disclaimer that it was late when I posted...
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Old 12-27-2002, 01:29 PM
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Hmmmm, how did this thread last so long without being promoted?...Let's put this where it belongs.
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Old 12-27-2002, 06:16 PM
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Thanks for the correction Monkey...
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Old 12-28-2002, 09:46 PM
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it's hard to believe myself that this thread has gone so long. i posted in pages 2 thru 5 which seems sooo long ago. it's a testament to the multitude of ideas and experiments that continue the quest for ever better range. keep em coming!
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Old 12-29-2002, 11:42 PM
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Well I don't know if this has been mentioned, considering I haven't read all 13 pages of thois thread, but I got a clone for Christmas called a Thunder Charger, and the range I get from it completely stock whoops my Microsizer. It has a solid non-insulated wire antenna that comes out from under the pcb board and goes up a couple millimeters before being shaped into a horizontal rectangle just about the same size as the pcb board. I'll post a pic some time later if I can.
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Old 12-31-2002, 03:01 AM
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I've heard conflicting remarks

What is the better wire solid or stranded?

How did Sonic arrive at his divide by 3 formula?


Using KFEdaddy2ks wave length method i got a length of 15.6(1/16) inches for a 45mhz bit radio antenna.

Using Sonic's formula i got a 13.6 inch lenght for th radio antenna.

So which method do I go by to get an optimum antenna length?

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Old 12-31-2002, 05:05 AM
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I tried using my 27.145Mhz, yellow TX from my T-Maxx, and it cannot control my Microsizer. It sends different signals that the MS RX does not understand.
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Old 01-02-2003, 11:11 PM
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Woohoo

I just modded my panther clone with a piece of solid 24 gauge copper wire. My range increased from 12 feet to 34.5 feet. I made sure the two wires were the same length.
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Old 01-03-2003, 12:35 AM
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its not only the length of the antenna that helps with better distance, but power into the tx also plays a big role in it as well.

most clones get better range because most clones use 3 batteries as opposed to 2 as in the char-g and ms.
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Old 01-05-2003, 12:33 AM
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nice idea holeshot. i think im gonna use ur antennae mod. thanks.
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:25 PM
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pics (up to date finally)

Just a couple shots of the Franken-car ((Lxx chassis/body; crushed in shipping from Hong Kong; rebuilt to be better... stronger...))



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Old 01-12-2003, 12:05 AM
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well im not sure if some 1 said this or not but if u want more range with any tools all u have to do is pull up the pvc..the antenna will have a knot in it..unravel the knot and if u dont have a hole going thro the hood or the roof of the car, reroute the antenna so its goning to the back opening...i geuss it got me atleast 5 more feet of range..or maby its just me...
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:03 AM
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wow my first post was on page 6 . WOW!!!

this thread is H U G E

Tiny you should turn this into a book

lemme say it again WOW!!
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