Porsche 911 GT3 and RCP Mini 96

nalves · #1 09-25-2009, 12:51 AM

Well, yesterday i received my RCP mini 96 track and today my two Porsches 911 GT3 arrived. While my wife was glued on the TV with Flashfoward and Grey's Anatomy i was glued in my RCP track and testing my Dnano.

I set up the track with the soft side up (low traction, i suppose). Run the Dnano stock. Wow, if it wasn't for the rails i didn't have the Porsche by now. It can fly! The stock tires don't work very well with this track because my rear was always shaking. It's easy to turn over the Dnano. Can someone help me and say what will be the best tires set up for this track?

Run the Dnano with the gyro and bearings. Much smoother than the first time and a little strange to get use to the gyro. I had reduce the steering travel at the beginning of the test (before installing the gyro) but now the turns were too wide...don't understand why, but fixed that by resetting the steering response.

Overall, it's almost 1AM and i can't sleep! To excited about the Dnano, lolo

Just have to buy a good screwdriver and a mini tool box. This car is very nano indeed...

Nuno Miguel Alves

MrNanoTrax · #2 09-25-2009, 01:34 AM

the "soft" side should be higher grip actually. i haven't run on RCP since the first time i touched a dNaNo but i believe its surface is similar to ours so i would recommend either 45F/10R or 35F/8R (this means you'll need a combination of PN Racing, Atomic & Kyosho tires depending on the combination you choose).

the porsche 911 gt3 is prone to rolling because its very narrow. high front traction when cornering at high speed will almost certainly cause this problem. i reduce the steering angle (widens the turning circle) to lessen the problem but throttle control & braking before entering corners will eliminate the problem (reduce your breaking strength to just above minimum).

if you don't have a ball diff & aluminum wheel hubs, get those to add weight to the rear and increase rear traction as well. last but not least, pick up the atomic t-plate set and find the right rear suspension setup for the RCP surface. have fun and post some pics (here & on our forum) when you have them

nalves · #3 09-25-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NanoTrax

i would recommend either 45F/10R or 35F/8R (this means you'll need a combination of PN Racing, Atomic & Kyosho tires depending on the combination you choose).

Hi Q'on, can you explain me the numbers? what do they tell me? just to understand the logic of it..

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but throttle control & braking before entering corners will eliminate the problem (reduce your breaking strength to just above minimum).

Ok, i'm used to brake a lot before the corners...but i have to change that...smooth ride is a thing that i don't have, lololo

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Originally Posted by NanoTrax

if you don't have a ball diff & aluminum wheel hubs, get those to add weight to the rear and increase rear traction as well.

I have to take care of that...but first a need to find a place where i can run with other guys...i'll learn faster, that's for sure.

Thanks,
nuno

Marcro · #4 09-25-2009, 02:38 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by soft side unless you mean the more "fuzzy" side. The fuzzy side is the higher grip side which worked well for my Dnano's last year when I had my RCP track. I've never tried the smoother side which was more designed for drifting than grip-racing.

nalves · #5 09-25-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcro

I'm not sure what you mean by soft side unless you mean the more "fuzzy" side. The fuzzy side is the higher grip side which worked well for my Dnano's last year when I had my RCP track. I've never tried the smoother side which was more designed for drifting than grip-racing.

If i remember the instrucions, i'm using the side with less traction, the one that is very smooth. The other side is more rough (probably it attrack more dirt also..). Even so, the Dnano from time to time rolled over...imagine if i ran on the grip side.

Speaking of dirt, the Dnano is very unforgiven about it. Must talk to my wife to shave her hair ;-)

Nuno Miguel Alves

RCP-Tracks, Inc · #6 09-25-2009, 04:02 PM

I think he is using the smooth, none textured side. I use the textured side of the RCP Track with my dNaNos. It has great grip when using many different tire grades. I have been using PN's tires exclusively and love the ride and feel on the textured side.

If you are using the smooth side, go ahead and flip the track over and try the textured side. Use a shop vac or similar on the textured side. It will help loosen and clean up the fibers from the manufacturing process. The grip will get better, the more you run and vacuum the track. Over time the loose fibers will be removed from vacuuming and the fibers that stay attached will give you the grip. That is why PN Racings original track at their shop, which is at least 3 ~ 4 years old, has outstanding grip.

Thanks,
John

nalves · #7 09-25-2009, 04:25 PM

So, can I assume that i'm using the "not so good" side? Because of the Dnano dimensions i tought that this was the appropriated side...

Well, now i have to talk to my kids an offer them another wii game so they can flip the track (and change the rails...thank god i'm not using the male-don't-remember-the-name-in-english to secure the rails).

But do you think that the smooth side won't work at all? At least i read here someone telling that they are using that side because it felt better.

By the way, your RCP Track is absolutely great. If anyone has any doubts about it, they just have to forget it. Absolutely great!

Thanks,
Nuno Miguel Alves

RCP-Tracks, Inc · #8 09-25-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nalves

So, can I assume that i'm using the "not so good" side? Because of the Dnano dimensions i tought that this was the appropriated side...

Well, now i have to talk to my kids an offer them another wii game so they can flip the track (and change the rails...thank god i'm not using the male-don't-remember-the-name-in-english to secure the rails).

But do you think that the smooth side won't work at all? At least i read here someone telling that they are using that side because it felt better.

By the way, your RCP Track is absolutely great. If anyone has any doubts about it, they just have to forget it. Absolutely great!

Thanks,
Nuno Miguel Alves

You can use either side. I would guess that 20% of our customers use the smooth side and 80% use the textured side. I like the textured side because it has a porus surface that allows the dust to settle lower than the top surface fibers. It allows for a more consistant surface without having the dust settling on the track and having to clean it after every few runs. I also think the tiles mesh together better with the textured side up and looks better this way. The cutting tools cut from top to bottom and we have the textured side facing up during the cutting process. Cutting the top surface first allows for a better looking mesh with what ever surface is cut first.

I don't use the top threaded PINS, when running my dNaNo's. The cars aren't really heavy enough to lift the rails. My kids don't mind setting up the track. I store the track with the rails attached and they enjoy putting the pieces together. Must be a kid thing.

nalves · #9 09-25-2009, 04:38 PM

Thank you so much!

Nuno Miguel Alves

RCP-Tracks, Inc · #10 09-25-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nalves

Thank you so much!

Nuno Miguel Alves

FYI, we have some new tracks coming out for the 2009 Holiday season that have a different surface texture than the smooth and textured side currently available on our black surface tracks.

The kits will be available through Toysrus, HSN and a few other large retail chains and come with a complete track and two 1/40 scale RC cars. The cars are high end toy grade and come with operational front and rear headlights.

The track surface is a stamped print, which is sort of in between the smooth side and textured side of our current tracks. The 1/40th scale cars work very well on the surface. I have tested the dNaNo on the surface at PN Racing's headquarters and it performs well with PN Racing high grip tires. With the new surface you get the feel of the smooth side with close to similar grip as the textured side of our current tracks. The tiles are dark grey in color, the straight side rails are black and the turn rails are yellow.

I think offering an entry level RC car with a professional track in the toy industry will only help sales and popularity of the Mini-z and dNaNo. Many will look to upgrade to a hobby grade RC car at some point. There are many people out there that don't know that the Mini-z and dNaNo exist. By getting our tracks into the masses of the toy industry, opens up many doors for people to get into the hobby side of RC.

arch2b · #11 09-25-2009, 07:23 PM

if you could, please be sure to share that information with me

i can have an appropriate subforum setup for those entry level folks

Marcro · #12 09-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Hey their RCP, will this new track with the 1/40 scale cars be of appropriate scale for the cars? Normal Mini96 is too wide/big for the Dnano's. I'd like to see pictures of these when available.

arch2b · #13 09-25-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcro

Hey their RCP, will this new track with the 1/40 scale cars be of appropriate scale for the cars? Normal Mini96 is too wide/big for the Dnano's. I'd like to see pictures of these when available.

no way. the mini-96 is what i would suggest as the minimum for the dnano. you get these up to full speed and anything thinner than a mini-96 and your asking for a game of rail tag.

MrNanoTrax · #14 09-25-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arch2b

no way. the mini-96 is what i would suggest as the minimum for the dnano. you get these up to full speed and anything thinner than a mini-96 and your asking for a game of rail tag.

co-signed. the tiles on our circuits 1 square metre so by comparison, our tracks are huge for dNaNo but any smaller and it gets crowded with multiple cars

re: Tire Compunds
45F/10R = PN Racing 45 degree front tires + Kyosho #10 (Stock) Rear Tires
35F/8R = Atomic 35 degree front + Atomic 8 degree rear tires

nalves · #15 09-25-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NanoTrax

re: Tire Compunds
45F/10R = PN Racing 45 degree front tires + Kyosho #10 (Stock) Rear Tires
35F/8R = Atomic 35 degree front + Atomic 8 degree rear tires

The higher the number the more grip they have? Or it is the opposite? I just don't understand the ranking of the numbers...

Thanks Q'on,
nuno