Desperado Mk.2 (Pics) - Page 2

GerG · #16 10-14-2005, 07:33 AM

Ok, so I cut the back of my body off and glued the back window so now its an 8 foot bed truck. and I am not sure what to use for it. I am probably going to use the bed cover upside down for the bottom of the bed, but I think you said something about the whole bed not fitting so maybe I could use the part of the bed that I cut off for the sides but what do you think?

Thanks greg

Edit: oh yea, and for the super glue idea do I really need the thickiner stuff or will it still work with out it.

frizzen · #17 10-14-2005, 07:46 PM

Why not just make a new Tonnau cover for it? Much easier than doing a real bed. Or a truck cap, or a camper shell, or...

When did I say anything about bed not working on a truck?

Dropping a bed won't work on either of the CAR chassis, but on a TRUCK chassis, it's all good. In a post on BitPimps, I went into how much depth you could get in the bed this way vs. the way I did on "Desperado".

You don't *NEED* anything. Having the thixotropic agent gives a faster buildup than applying CA in thin layers, or applying think enough to be risking curing issues with it. It's a bit more structural with a thickening agent than without, but again it's your ride do it your way. If you need extensive changes, or have gaps that don't want to fill easily, you'll definately want to try it.

GerG · #18 10-15-2005, 06:52 PM

Well my body looks the same as yours in the 3 picture in the thread. I am ordering a black styrene sheet size .080 for the bed, some athearn motor brush springs, tamiya basic putty, and ca glue because I ran out of mine. I am not sure what size styrene I should get though, .08 is 2mm and Im not sure if I should get it smaller or not.

Thanks, Greg

frizzen · #19 10-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Why did you pick 0.080 styrene? Any reason, or just becase 80 thousandths seemed like a nice round number?

I've got to try out those motor brush springs, maybe I can make it out to a hobby shop sometime next week.

Good luck with the putty, I've already spoken about putties multiple times. Hope it works out for you.
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Fogged more paint, needing to block sand it a bit. Soon to be painted final color.

GerG · #20 10-15-2005, 09:06 PM

Why did I pick .080 thickness styrene sheets? becuase that is 2mm thick and I thought that might be good but I cant decide if I should go thinner or not. remember, they are measured in inches. What to you think? what do you use in your truck?

Thanks, Greg

Edit : never mind I just ordered it cause I didnt want too wait any longer. I'll tell you how it is when Im done probably next weekend and Ill try to get pics. And once I see how the putty and super gule work I might make a nascar truck series silverado cause I like chevys the best.

nasphere · #21 10-16-2005, 08:26 AM

damn frizz, that things looking REALLY nice... I like the roll bar. Did you say you soldered it?

frizzen · #22 10-20-2005, 06:30 PM

just that 0.080 is pretty thick. I use 0.060 and 0.040 for most of my stuff.

Nasphere, if you look closely that was Desperado I was just showing some bed depth. Rollbar is paperclips and CA (because I was too lazy to solder).

GerG · #23 10-21-2005, 08:36 PM

WEll WTF! If you think thats pretty thick why not tell me! especially if you dont feel like responding in almost a frickin week. And I asked you what size you think would be good in the first place. Jesus McBesus!

frizzen · #24 10-24-2005, 02:14 AM

Dude, I didn't because it doesn't really matter.

80 thou is thicker than I'd probably go for a non-structural thing at this scale, we both know on these that the bed is mostly superficial. I did it as a weight saving measure, plus the body is about the thickness of plastic I used. I don't have a micrometer handy, so I can't give you real numbers.

You could use 100 thousandths or thicker and have it still be fine. You could use plastic down to like 5 thousandths, it'd be more of a pain, but it would still work. If you think the plastic you use will be too thick, just put some sandpaper on a flat surface and rub a chunk of your plastic in circles on it. Amazingly it gets thinner. If you think your plastic is too thin, laminate it. It's like women have been saying for years: Size Doesn't Matter.

Yeah, it took me a while to respond. I have other things going on in my life which have been making customizing a truck body seem incredibly insignifigant. Hopefully I'll have more time to blow on this after H-ween, but kinda doubt it. I'd love to be caught up on all my micro rc projects I'm working on, but it's just something I do to relax from the things I have to do.

GerG · #25 10-26-2005, 06:20 PM

YEa, now the bed weighs the same as the truck body its self, I did ask you in the first place. I mean this stuff it really really thick and I gotta put all these noches in it and sand and its a huge pain.

But whatever, thanks for the idea your truck is really nice, Ill be sure to post pics when Im done probably this weekend.

Greg

frizzen · #26 10-28-2005, 06:56 PM

Still needs a bit of touch up and detailing...

GerG · #27 10-28-2005, 07:09 PM

Sweet paintjob. I cant copy you oin that one

Im just gonna keep mine black, I think Ill have mine done by tomarrow night.

Edit: Oh yea and how exactly did you make that cowlhoad? That things real nice.

frizzen · #28 10-28-2005, 11:41 PM

Thanks man, I did that one as a kandy paint, and it does a colorshift depending on the lighting, it's a bit darker than it looks there.

Good luck with black, you might want to do a primer or atleast a guide coat first. A gloss black will show EVERY little surface imperfection that could possibly exist. Don't want to discourage you, but it's really bitten some people.

A cowl hood was very easy. Take paint off the truck hood in the area you plan to attach it so it'll really bond well later. Grab a chunk of your sheet styrene, I think mine was like 1/4 x 3/8" when I started. Since I wanted a more Aero look I starte by rounding the leading edge corners. Then I came in and did a flat bevel along what becomes the top surface (so in real life this would start at about 1" and go to maybe 4-6" cowl). Next I beveled the side edges so it all flowed pretty smoothly. Once I was happy with that, I gently curled the cowl slightly so it would match contour of the hood.
***LOTS of test fitting, make sure you are happy with the look and style.***
You'll probably want to center the cowl on the hood and make some reference marks so gluing is easier. Then I applied CA to the cowl, placed on hood, let it flash. If your cowl is slightly off center or whatever, come in with a needle file and fix it. Flowed another tiny bead around the edges incase there were any gaps, came back in with my vixen needle file to make sure everything was block sanded smooth. blah blah blah, frizzen just never shuts up!

There are lots of styles of Cowls and Scoops and Snorkles that you can make, my truck just shows a rather mild aero styled one. Do a search, look at lots of them before you pick a style.

Still sorry I didn't give you enough help choosing styrene thickness.

nasphere · #29 10-29-2005, 10:42 AM

Nice job dude!!

GerG · #30 10-29-2005, 03:57 PM

Well I dont thik Ill make a cowl hood because thats just too much work for me for a tiny rc truck. Im not giveing it a whole new paint job, Im just keeping my truck black so all I have to paint is the small spots and edges where the putty is. so far all I have is the bottom, yes only bottom of the bed in. Its glued in on the sides and thats good enough for now. Im not doing a cowl hood or completely puting the whole bed in because I am very busy working on a huge tree house (which I might add is 13 by 15 feet) with my cousin, for the last few weekends that pretty much all Ive been doing on my spare time.

Thanks, Greg