Crappy Imports At The Theatre - Page 8

boxcrash · #**106** 03-03-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Uncle Caleetro
It doesn't really matter to me which one makes more power as a daily driver, because I wont be racing on the street anyways, so I might as well try and get at least decent gas mileage every day.

One I could care less about naturaly aspirated engines, that was not my arguement, I do not even like superchargers honestly.
It does not matter though...like you said and I said before, preferance.

About gas, I hear you loud and clear. With prices soaring to unreasonable rates in the states I have thought of going two wheels for my primary transportation year round.
It is getting out of hand and makes me mad as anything, and there is nothing we can do about it too.
I thought we went to war for one of the reasons of oil control and prices among many others............I am done.

Scientist · #**107** 03-03-2004, 06:29 PM

2.0L 4 cylinder VS 4.7 V8 Supercharged

out come...stock evo wins by 4 car lengths

filelicker · #**108** 03-03-2004, 06:57 PM

I have to say ricers suck!
I have owned muscle cars for ever { all street cars not trailer queens or I can't do that it might get dirty}
th following pic is of a black 1973 "bonnie and clyde " edition chrysler new yorker{1 of 50 ever made}factory wide whites leather half top and chrome wheels with a dual carb 440 cid{ no one could take it} aslo in the pic is my personal favorite the ultimate "beater racer" a 1976 chevy nova with a police package, 350. chevy 11:1 comp with wild cam headers and glass packs, chassis ties front and rear disc brakes and a high stall speed 400 tranny. this thing would pick the front end 2 feet off the ground {really} { this car made me alot of money}.

Scientist · #**109** 04-08-2004, 01:50 AM

now since i aint in that conventional american straight racing bull****...i don't own or intend to own an american muscle car....they are fugly cars...where do they get the designers?...they are bulky and are like dead weight...try takin that 440 and do some real racing with it....straight line requires no brain work....real racing isn't just a quartermile...thats why the ricers and the euros keep wiping the floor wit the americans and their big "muscle cars"...the muscle error is dead...technology and boost rules now

Uncle Caleetro · #**110** 04-08-2004, 02:17 AM

Hahahaha, I'd like to see you get in a high horsepower rear-wheel drive car and make it down the quarter mile like the top-fuel guys do. It takes a lot of skill and concentration. And personally, I think ricers with their outrageously stupid body kits are ugly, and unnecessary.

97PrizmLsi · #**111** 04-08-2004, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Scientist
now since i aint in that conventional american straight racing bull****...i don't own or intend to own an american muscle car....they are fugly cars...where do they get the designers?...they are bulky and are like dead weight...try takin that 440 and do some real racing with it....straight line requires no brain work....real racing isn't just a quartermile...thats why the ricers and the euros keep wiping the floor wit the americans and their big "muscle cars"...the muscle error is dead...technology and boost rules now

You aren't going to change anyone's opinion here. I don't really see where you get off saying that euros are wiping the floor with Domestics...at least you concede that they certainly aren't doing it in the 1/4. A lot of people would beg to differ that real racing is not done in the 1/4. But anyways, you live in a place where there are some very pure and commonplace imports from what I make of it (Evos, Pulsars, Civic SiRs, etc). An ITR is a rarity here, plus it is weak compared to a Mustang GT (ok, stock they are about the same, but the Ford V8 has more potential [don't try to argue with a Paxton SC]). The American market is dominated by domestics...that's all there is to it. Not many affordable import sports cars are availiable to us right now. To get one you need to fork over near 35K$ for a 350Z, Evo, or STi (don't argue numbers with me here, 35 is at least what you will spend) or spend a while looking for something relatively rare (MR2 SW20, Eclipse GSX, Supra, RX7). Or you can always spend big $$$ making a civic go fast. The thing I don't think you are comprehending is that muscle car roots go deep in the USA. It is something unique to the US. It is symbolic of our nation's power and prestige and many people won't ever let it go, so I don't know where you are getting that the muscle car "error" [era] (heh, nice play on words) is ending.

NOS man · #**112** 07-15-2004, 12:49 AM

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NOS man · #**113** 07-15-2004, 12:49 AM

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NOS man · #**114** 07-15-2004, 12:50 AM

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Scientist · #**115** 07-15-2004, 09:16 AM

97PrizmLsi

that 4A-GE is overpriced.

the market value of a 20V blacktop is just a bit over a grand within the caribbean and under a grand for the 20V silvertop

and the AE92 GZE is jus under $500 for a complete motor

also the engine is available in the corolla GTs

but now if i were u.....i wouldn't go for a complete swap...i'd buy a Longblock GZE for bout $90.....used the forged pistons and reinforced block and get an exhaust manifold and turbo charge it....my friend in jamaica had one using stock internals and was running over 20psi boost

Now as for another comment about more Muscle cars than imports etc....That is totally off....there more imports world wide than muscle cars....Jus look at sales figures for top selling manufacturers

Next point, the world record for a STOCK block supra with only bolt on mods is 1200WHP. I do not know any V8s without going lower compression pistons and running on PUMP gas pulling out that kind of power

also for the guys with the 14:1 compression for their 1000+ N/a V8s....can u go to a regular gas station and fill up?...or do u have to run methanol or 100+ octane gas?

viperdout · #**116** 07-15-2004, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Scientist
ok then next question...

which daily driver V8 have u come across makin 800 HP naturally aspirated

and for your info...the 20B rotary that was in the LE Mans RX7 (which got banned) was makin all its power naturally aspirated. they said mazda had an unfair advantage cause of the wieght of the engine

That is a racing engine, not street legal. Muscle dead my ass. A V8 is the cheapest way to make power, hands down. Considering that with a single Turbo, a 302 bored and stroked out to a 331 makes 1700hp. Now, before you start saying that isn't street legal, the motor above is shoved in an 87-93 style hatchback stang that runs 8s in TRUE STREET. True street is a category where you must have a 100% street legal car. You then have to drive your car for 20 miles, then make 3 passes, without opening the hood or filling up the tank. Now before you say "Well domestics can't make a fast 4 cylinder" you should shut up. You've probably heard of the Ford RS200 Evo. It was just a little turbo 4 banger that put out 600hp, and ran 0-60 in under 3 seconds (still a world record). What about the Mustang SVOs? 205 hp stock, and there are quite a few of the turbo 2.3s putting out over 500hp without a sweat. If it weren't for the Fox body Mustang, few people would even know how to work with EFI (that was admitted by Super Street's editor). Imports are a fad. They change too often. The president of Johhny Lightning models said "Imports change so quickly, you could have something that's out of style in a week, while a Yenko Camaro will sell all day long." Hot import night's attendance is down, and American muscle has been dominating on the track and street. I'm not saying there are no fast imports. Some dude in Houston who goes by the name of Cheesefrog has a 10 second Civic that looks just about stock, and I've ridden in an 11 second 3000GT VR4. The point is, muscle is way more popular. For 3k, you can go buy a high mileage Mustang or Camaro. For the same 3k, you can buy a Civic. You can dump another 3k in mods into both of them, and the Mustang and Camaro will both leave the Civic in the dust. You need to stop watching F&F.

viperdout · #**117** 07-15-2004, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Scientist
also for the guys with the 14:1 compression for their 1000+ N/a V8s....can u go to a regular gas station and fill up?...or do u have to run methanol or 100+ octane gas?

If you run a mild enough cam, you can get away with high test. I know somebody who dropped a 351 into a stang that he paid about 3 for. He's got 10 into it, including the car. He ripped a Viper a while back. Muscle is way better. I can go buy a stroked 351 for 4k that puts out 450whp. Let's see you do that with 4 grand with an import 4 banger.

blacksabbath070 · #**118** 08-20-2004, 06:08 PM

With 4 grand I could make a kickass 240sx with the Sr20DET and still get decent gas mileage not to mention better handling, or if I had a Civic Hatchback SI I could drop in a B16A2 and turbo and still have cheaper insurance then a muscle car, not to mention decent gas mileage and handling. However, it all depends on what your into.