x-mods vs. mini-z no reason for immature behavior, real comparison in this post

[neurokinetik]

Out of the box, I get more enjoyment out of my Mini-Z, but I think that with the right upgrades, the XMods will be less of a toy and more of a racing machine. Things seem to be in the works that will solve many of the weak points in the car, and I guarantee that if somebody makes the right upgrade parts and starts selling them (ie metal axle cups, etc) the big guys like GPM and others will begin to take notice. How could you ignore such a large and growing base of users?

[pacificwarriors]

that would be nice 2 have gpm make parts for xmods

[xxspeednplayaxx]

whats their site/email i beleive an email is in order..

[broncomaxx42]

Another thing to ponder.........

I don't know about y'all, but the malls in my area don't have a Kyosho store. Also, I don't think I could go to kyosho.com and order a television or get a cell phone, and I wouldn't go to Radio Shack if I wanted to buy a world class 1\8 scale gas powered buggy........What I'm saying is; Radio Shack sells many different types of electronics, Kyosho lives and breathes RC. I think Radio Shack deserves a little tip-of-the-hat to be able to produce a car that can POTENTIALY compete with the mini-z. I don't own a mini-z, but I have owned other Kyosho RC cars and I know they produce a quality product. Some people are saying that the cars are in two different leagues. SHOULD they be in the same league?? I think Radio shack designed these cars to be a slightly cheaper, but still fun, alternative. Anyway, I guess my bottom line is; let mini-z's have the mini-z cup, and let xmods have the xmod cup. Throw the two classes together for an all-star cup and let the best driver win. Above all, JUST HAVE FUN RACING WITH YOUR FRIENDS!

[xxspeednplayaxx]

AMEN to that bro

[shadowblade]

Well said. I wish everyone felt that way.

My Xmod is faster than most Mini-Zs, and has 4 wheel drive, but Mini-zs are just made better. No doubt on that one. I use a mini-z body because they look better and are more durable than the xmod bodies.
I hope the popularity of xmods scares Kyosho into rethinking some of the mini-z design "features", like rear wheel drive only. If Kyosho made a AWD mini-z, with IRS, they would make alot of money.

[RedRSX]

Originally posted by xxspeednplayaxx
i dunno, minizs are my enemys (havent you noticed) i must say however i must admit that they are faster and higher quality, but the reign of the Z will burst into flames as we xmoders shall eventually own the race scenes

"the reign of the Z will burst into flames as we xmoders shall eventually own the race scene".............................I dont even know how to respond to that except to laugh! Do you actually think that a $50 rc car from Radio Shack is going to "own" the racing scene?! I can see the 1/10 scale gas-powered rc car owners bow in defeat of the almighty XMOD...come on now. You really put the xmod on a high pedistule. Well, best of luck on owning the whole racing scene...go get 'em tiger!!

[SuPrBuGmAn]

$50 for a base car isn't bad. If you really want to upgrade either an Xmod or a MiniZ you'd be replacing just about everything on them anyway correct?

Well, why not start with a cheaper base model car? :P

$50 price tag also allows for many many more people to get involved in this hobby - thats a good thing for Xmodders, MiniZers, and the rest of the RC world since it encourages more aftermarket support for all cars, cheaper prices, and more options.





There shouldn't be a debate between which is better, the only debate should be about what RS can do to improve quality and performance and what Kyosho should do about adding features and lowering prices.

[MicroSpeed]

Originally posted by RedRSX
Ok...first off, do you even know what Blitzkreig means??? Also where and how it was incorparated in WWII?? "the reign of the Z will burst into flames as we xmoders shall eventually own the race scene".............................I dont even know how to respond to that except to laugh! Do you actually think that a $50 rc car from Crap Shack is going to "own" the racing scene?! LOLOLOLOLOLOL...i can see the 1/10 scale gas-powered rc car owners bow in defeat of the almighty XMOD...LOLOLOL You really put the xmod on a high pedistule. Well, best of luck on owning the whole racing scene...go get 'em tiger!! LOLOL

Here we go again .... You guys just won't quit will you?? Geez! Not trying to start anything, but in my opinion I like XMods better. This is why:

You just got $150. Whoopy. You now have two options:
-Buy a Mini-Z (which is actually very nice car) and no upgrades
-Buy an X-Mod and fully, or close to fully upgrade it.


So, if you have a limited amount of $, then the Xmod would be the better choice. It offers most if not all of the features of, should I say, "higher quality" RC's.

But, If you have 100's of dollars to spend, you'd probably be better off buying a MiniZ and just about every upgrade you want.


I dream of the day that Xmodders and MiniZers will stop arguing.

-Micro

[charliebrown]

Originally posted by RedRSX
Ok...first off, do you even know what Blitzkreig means??? Also where and how it was incorparated in WWII?? "the reign of the Z will burst into flames as we xmoders shall eventually own the race scene".............................I dont even know how to respond to that except to laugh! Do you actually think that a $50 rc car from Crap Shack is going to "own" the racing scene?! LOLOLOLOLOLOL...i can see the 1/10 scale gas-powered rc car owners bow in defeat of the almighty XMOD...LOLOLOL You really put the xmod on a high pedistule. Well, best of luck on owning the whole racing scene...go get 'em tiger!! LOLOL

You know what? It's people like YOU that are the cause of threads getting locked down. You don't know when to quit....you just love to hijack threads in here with your Xmods insults. Get a life and stop coming in here just to cause uproars and flame wars. People are sick of that. I'll admit that Mini-Z's may be better, but that does not give you an excuse to come in here just to belittle Xmods.

This section of the forum was created so that people could talk about these cars and enjoy them, learn how to upgrade them, etc etc. RadioShack didn't design these cars to be the fastest, they just wanted people to have fun, why is that something to be looked down upon? Tell me a GOOD reason why you should come here and insult these cars over and over. crazyheck even said not to be immature, just state some good, fair opinions. Yet, you ignore that and slander Xmods anyway. Let me ask you, how many times have you continuously insulted these cars? Tell me.

All people have to do is go through your posts through your profile and see how many posts you've made that made fun of Xmods. It's as simple as that. You have almost NOTHING better to do than keep ranting on how these cars are inferior to Mini-Z's. People are sick of your crap and we don't want to deal with it anymore.

Why did you even post in the Xmods forum? What is your purpose in insulting these cars? And then you may say something to mock their potential and say something like, "LOLOLOLOLOL! " Well, I'll say this once (and let me assure you that 95% of the people here got my back),

SHUT UP ALREADY!

Now, let's get back to the topic of this thread and don't act like RedRSX...he's just trolling to get people to dislike Xmods.

Chuckster...

[arch2b]

on a different note, as i've discussed my views previously, i have cahtted with a few rc guys over in japan. i was curious to see what they thought of them being the home of almost every high grade rc.

this is the general opinion i perceived;
xmods will not make it overseas for a few reasons...
too expensive to import
tamiya makes similar but better products

xmods are seen as a sort of mutant mini-z/tamiya awd rc. i get the feeling they are nto impressed at all wit either the electronics, quality or features.

i just thought it would be interesting to pass on the info. don't hol me resposible as these were just the impressions i got from the conversations. and before the negativity spues forth, consider the circumstances.... these opinions are coming from places where kyosho products are as easy to find as a 7/11 or rs. kyosho has become an ingrained hobby for whole family's there and there is no sign or worry about rs products. i even get the feeling they could care less about u.s. sales alltogether as they do just fine at home.

given this, i don't think you will see asian aftermarket parts manufactueres racing to jump on the xmod wagon. to them it probably isn't even on the radar. they have world class rc companies on their own shores.

sorry to post somewhat pesimistic news. if there are any japan xmoders here please post your thoughts as i'm sure there are disenting opinions there as well.

anyway, you best bet is to encourage and support people like craftsman who are takign it upon themselves to produce aftermarket/superior parts. i think there is more potential for u.s. manufactuers to jump on the xmod wagon than asian ones.

the development of the offical xmod racing series will only further the xmod craze and assure it's postition in the rc market. kyosho was smart to begin the cup races, rs is just as smart to do the same. i have an xmod as well as atleast one of each kind of mini-z and i look forward to racing all of them on my rcp track! i don't think it's really fair to mix the chassis's though unless your doing some sort of canonball run race where anything goes. inwhich case i would bring out my all alloy overland and cream everyone you can't win if you can't move....

[d00kie]

Well, if you're an Xmodder, make friends with some MiniZers and vice-versa.

Also, if I had both Xmods and MiniZs, I would rather perform high-risk mods to the Xmod not only because of the price, but because replacement parts are just around the corner (well, Rshacks are low on stock, but...)

[Micro S2000]

when i think about it, i think of this being a imports vs. domestic battle. or rice rs. muscle. you have your japanesse cars (mini-z) with great handling, turbos, and quality (we all know how american cars fall apart). and the xmods are the muscle cars. with there 6 cell mods and 180 motors, but worse handling, with the fewer steps and large turn radius.

but any way, i think the xmods have the potencial to be way better than the mini-z. all they would have to do is either get a new servo, or make the current one streatch farther to cut down the turning radius. with this, all wheel drive, and the 6 cell mods about every xmod is equiped with it would toast the mini-z. its quality may not be as good, but for the racing the mini-z would be blown away.

[RedRSX]

Originally posted by charliebrown
You know what? It's people like YOU that are the cause of threads getting locked down. You don't know when to quit....you just love to hijack threads in here with your Xmods insults. Get a life and stop coming in here just to cause uproars and flame wars. People are sick of that. I'll admit that Mini-Z's may be better, but that does not give you an excuse to come in here just to belittle Xmods.

This section of the forum was created so that people could talk about these cars and enjoy them, learn how to upgrade them, etc etc. RadioShack didn't design these cars to be the fastest, they just wanted people to have fun, why is that something to be looked down upon? Tell me a GOOD reason why you should come here and insult these cars over and over. crazyheck even said not to be immature, just state some good, fair opinions. Yet, you ignore that and slander Xmods anyway. Let me ask you, how many times have you continuously insulted these cars? Tell me.

All people have to do is go through your posts through your profile and see how many posts you've made that made fun of Xmods. It's as simple as that. You have almost NOTHING better to do than keep ranting on how these cars are inferior to Mini-Z's. People are sick of your crap and we don't want to deal with it anymore.

Why did you even post in the Xmods forum? What is your purpose in insulting these cars? And then you may say something to mock their potential and say something like, "LOLOLOLOLOL! " Well, I'll say this once (and let me assure you that 95% of the people here got my back),

SHUT UP ALREADY!

Now, let's get back to the topic of this thread and don't act like RedRSX...he's just trolling to get people to dislike Xmods.

Chuckster...

Dude you have some serious issues...i think you might die by the age of 25 becasue your stress level is at the max.!!! You really need to take it down a notch...im just voicing my honest opinion I dont see why you would have a problem with me voicing my opinion...now who is the bad guy?? Your a really disturbed person and i suggest you seek some therapy...just trying to look out fro my fellow racers