Burning question on "DRIFTING"

[maikeru]

keiichi tsuchiya drifted an AWD skyline, cause he's the man, he did it on akina mountain in japan.

[spitty12]

FWD drifting is very possible with a few tricks. Go steal 2 McDonalds trays and drive your cars rear wheels onto them, Pull E-brake when you are centered on them and then go nuts. They don't last long so next option wood, go dumpster diving behind home depot or use scrap wood. This will work too but when I was just putting it under my wheels in a school parking lot at 11pm a cop pulled up behind me so I haven't tested it yet.
Interesting conversation though:
"What are you guys doing here?"
"Just hanging out"
cop looks around and see's skidmarks from pendulum turns and wood under the car
"What are you really doing out here?"
"Well I was about to put a piece of ply wood under my rear tires and lock it in place with the parking brake sir."
It took him a minute to contemplate why I would be doing that and then he told us to go home and never come back.
Time for a new parking lot

[JDMDrifter]

Originally posted by QPizzle
there is a r34 skyline(Ken Nomura) that was in the d-1 grand prix of drifting on the west coast this past year, but it was converted to rwd. there is also an r32 in the d-1 driven by Yuuki Izumida and that too is rwd.

Nomuken's car is not converted to RWD, it's not a GT-R. In fact, it's a four-door(R33 Model had a 4-door GT-R, but I think it was done by Autec).

Joey: Even though it would make sense that drifting was originated by WRC, I don't think it is because Tazio Nuvolari was actually the first(to my knowledge) race driver to use drifts to his advantage.

AWD drifting is definitely possible, and in the rain it's much more controlled than RWD(obviously).

spitty12, could you please explain the method you were using, I'm not sure I understand.

[spitty12]

Ok, do this in a front wheel drive car only. To reduce rear traction in the rear you effectively replace a rubber tire with plastic or wood causing the rear end to slide easily.

1 Put down wood or fast food trays infront of your rear wheels.
2 Push the material up to the tire and make sure it is centered.
3 Get in the car and slowly drive onto the wood/plastic trays so the tires are centered on the material.
4 Pull the parking break hard to lock up the rear tires, this locks the wood or tray under the rear wheels so when you drive the rear wheels don't rotate and drag the wood/tray causing less traction.

This sounds odd but it's a lot of fun when you get a parking lot with some islands to use as markers. No tire wear so its not expensive. Be safe though and don't do this in a populated area.

[JDMDrifter]

Ah, I get it, sounds fun.

[Cian]

Originally posted by JDMDrifter
.....I don't think it is because Tazio Nuvolari was actually the first(to my knowledge) race driver to use drifts to his advantage.
....

And Nuvolari was a rally driver!!!

Well Kinda, If you count the mille miglia etc as a rally...

A few quick comments.

1) Tray sliding is not drifting any more than doing ricer ebrake drifts around street corners. (yes, I know Markko, Colin, Tommi, and all those good guys use the ol' ebrake trick once in a while, but they're usually on dirt or gravel. you don't see this trick being executed on dry tarmac very often. I can't think of one single time.) Last I knew, drifting involved keeping a controlled slide around a corner on a real course, not just letting the tail-end of your car flail around randomly in a parking lot. Doing RWD "donuts" in a parking lot is also the same concept. Donuts are not drifting.

2) Most companies who import Skuline GT-R's to the US convert them to RWD only. There are very few skylines in the united states, but that number is increasing. The number of AWD skylines in the united states is simply miniscule. Also, many skylines that are imported are not GT-R's, they're GT-S's, which come from the factory with RWD. Just because the badge says it's a GT-R doesn't mean it really is. I just saw a 1988 Ford Mustang GT-R (with 4 official nissan GT-R badges on it). A few weeks ago I saw a Maxima GT-R and a Civic GT-R in the same parking lot. The sticker doesn't mean much. The GT-S is still a good machine. Regardless, most skylines in the US are RWD.

3) Rally cars drift AND are AWD, but they don't drift too well if they're on a dry (not raining, snowing, etc) paved tarmac stage. They do very well on dirt and gravel though.

[Cian]

)Rally cars drift AND are AWD, but they don't drift too well if they're on a dry (not raining, snowing, etc) paved tarmac stage. They do very well on dirt and gravel though.

Exactly,
Case in point, Rally of Corsica, all tarmac, no drifting. Even the drivers admit it's more like circuit racing than rallying, finding racing lines, apexes on corners etc.

[spitty12]

Tray sliding allows you to hold the drift/slide much longer than using the e-brake. I've drifted(yes, holding a drift through consecutive turns) rwd vehicles and you employ almost the same techniques using trays. I do it in a parking lot with a nice figure 8 that alows you to hold a controlled slide around each island and then rotate the vehicle back around for the next turn. Not just randomly flailing around or power sliding. I know it's ghetto but it's fun. I mostly use my Rwd ford ranger to drift fire roads since I don't car if it slams up against the side of a cliff.

[QPizzle]

its impossible to know if most skylines imported are rwd. motoRex can import any skyline you want, gt-r or gt-s so its up to the buyer. i'd say there is about 200 skylines as of now in the u.s. as a few months ago there was approx. 100, and judging by the growing trend, and seeing 3 in person on the street i'd say it at least doubled. however those 3 cars were r33's.

[maikeru]

A coupleof weeks ago i saw a Yellow GT-R34, in person in Seatle washington, i got to sit in it and the guy drove me around the block like 7 times, we hit 130MPh, it was all wheel and it was awesome.

[Bad Company]

I'm gonna move this since it has turned into a basic drifting thread, and doesn't relate to Xmods anymore.

[geofroley]

Originally posted by maikeru
A coupleof weeks ago i saw a Yellow GT-R34, in person in Seatle washington, i got to sit in it and the guy drove me around the block like 7 times, we hit 130MPh, it was all wheel and it was awesome.

Dude I envy you so damn much!!! I've only touched an R34. . .

[JDMDrifter]

Originally posted by ax0n
A few quick comments.

1) Tray sliding is not drifting any more than doing ricer ebrake drifts around street corners. (yes, I know Markko, Colin, Tommi, and all those good guys use the ol' ebrake trick once in a while, but they're usually on dirt or gravel. you don't see this trick being executed on dry tarmac very often. I can't think of one single time.) Last I knew, drifting involved keeping a controlled slide around a corner on a real course, not just letting the tail-end of your car flail around randomly in a parking lot. Doing RWD "donuts" in a parking lot is also the same concept. Donuts are not drifting.

2) Most companies who import Skuline GT-R's to the US convert them to RWD only. There are very few skylines in the united states, but that number is increasing. The number of AWD skylines in the united states is simply miniscule. Also, many skylines that are imported are not GT-R's, they're GT-S's, which come from the factory with RWD. Just because the badge says it's a GT-R doesn't mean it really is. I just saw a 1988 Ford Mustang GT-R (with 4 official nissan GT-R badges on it). A few weeks ago I saw a Maxima GT-R and a Civic GT-R in the same parking lot. The sticker doesn't mean much. The GT-S is still a good machine. Regardless, most skylines in the US are RWD.

3) Rally cars drift AND are AWD, but they don't drift too well if they're on a dry (not raining, snowing, etc) paved tarmac stage. They do very well on dirt and gravel though.

MotoRex is a very reputable company and they would not badge a GT-S a GT-R, nor convert it to RWD. They do import GT-S's but most of the Skylines they sell are GT-R's. And I too have seen one in person, the only R34 GT-R in my area. It's white, and I didn't even make a big hype about it because my mind was in another place. It was the night after we got our M3 and we were riding in it, so I was still really happy about that.

[QPizzle]

why would a stranger let you in his car....