FWD XMOD!! YES! Front Wheel Drive!! - Page 3

charliebrown · #31 12-21-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by MicroRCracer
Another thing a Mini-Z will never have...
This is for those interested in converting your Xmod into a FWD. Yes, front wheel drive!! Now, I have three XMod Supras!! AWD, RWD, and now front wheel drive. I love all of the different drive characteristics that they have!!

Here is what you ahave to do.. I used the 5 yellow bushings for spacers to replace the rear diff.. It's amazing of how much low end front wheel drive torgue the car has epecially racing on carpet. Reminds me of the real import Honda dragsters take off when racing for 1/4 mile time on a track. Handling handles just like a real FWD car, kinda like an RSX or Civic.

Please refer to the picture below..

I don't mean to put you down or anything....but I prefer sticking with the RWD as it is. See, with RWD you get sharper turns, which is useful for drifting. AWD decreases the turning radius, and FWD will decrease it even more. So, I still prefer to race with RWD. No offense man, just my $.02.

Chuckster...

Mr BigShot · #32 12-24-2003, 10:28 AM

Come on how long do think this will last lol Those crappy plastic parts can't handle the abuse of just driving around . My .02

SKYHIGH · #33 12-24-2003, 11:49 AM

Hey MrBigShot you should really consider not hating on everybody eles stuff. Thats all you ever post is crap. If you're so good and such a MrBigShot go on to bigger better things. Just my $.02.

Also, I have the FWD set-up on my Rsx and it has a smaller turning radius thean the awd on my skyline. I think it is because the rear wheels aren't pushing it any more. On our garage floor it will slip just enough and then get traction to finish the turns on our track.

newbitowner · #34 12-30-2003, 02:34 PM

I'd attempt to make my car FWD if it was suppose to be FWD.

__________XMOD__________

yellow Skyline

RS rubber tires

RS metal bearings

RS stage 2 motors

IC-3 AAA's

extremely hard front springs from 1:18 Maisto die-cast

Joey · #35 12-30-2003, 04:34 PM

Well sure, completely understandable if you're doing it to a Civic or RSX. I assumed those were front-wheel drive to being with, anyway; apparently not.

I tried making a FWD Civic out of Legos once...Legos and two motors I tore out of a New Bright C4 Corvette. It didn't turn at all - wouldn't FWD give you a really terrible steering problem with XMODS? All the weight is behind the drive wheels, and they've got to handle twice the work.

nobodyhere962 · #36 12-30-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Nathan
If you've ever dropped the clutch anywhere above 2000 RPMs in a real FWD car, you know how the traction is . I drive a civic- I know.

I've seen FWD dragsters too-I'd like to know how they do it.

My FWD XMOD cracks me up. It does some mad burnouts in my garage, and even understeered into a wall .

the dragsters use wheelie bars to keep them from losing traction

Joey · #37 12-30-2003, 06:43 PM

That, and the engine is meticulously balanced right where it'll allow for the most downward force on the front wheels. That's the point of FWD anyway.

nobodyhere962 · #38 01-01-2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Joey
That, and the engine is meticulously balanced right where it'll allow for the most downward force on the front wheels. That's the point of FWD anyway.

yeah that too

NovaDK · #39 01-01-2004, 01:32 PM

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the dragsters use wheelie bars to keep them from losing traction

What the heck are you talking about? The reason why dragsters have wheelie bars is that they have So much torque when the big slicks grab the car would could basically flip its self over basically ALL the cars weight is over the back 2 tires. The FWD dragsters use em because they dont have the ability to shift the weigh to the rear to keep traction so it basiclly makes a longer wheel base for more weight to balance over the front end. If you watch a RWD car launch off the line the car will squat on the rear tires giving it better grip, on a FWD the tire just spin causing no traction and a small chirp is heard.

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That, and the engine is meticulously balanced right where it'll allow for the most downward force on the front wheels. That's the point of FWD anyway.

The point and reason of a FWD car was most people cannot drive in rainy or snowy condidtions and that they thought by placing the weight over the front tires it would help the dummies out. I have drivin FWD in the snow and would take a RWD anyday of the week since I can add as much weight to the back end a s possible, and I know how to drive. Besdes ALL supercar or highperformance cars are RWD or midrear engine RWD why would that be? O yea RWD is better for performance cars the list, Corvette, GT40, Ferraris(sp), Porsch, Supra, Skyline r33, BMW's, Mr2, S2000, Lambo, Eris, Super 7, Camaro/firebird, GN, Mustang, Viper, nascar Even the V-8 super cars take a stock FWD and make it into a RWD.

NovaDK · #40 01-01-2004, 01:44 PM

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What about Import Drag with skylines, supras, and Nissan Zs? They ARE RWD\AWD.

FWD cars can go fast, especially when they don't need to go straight real fast. They excel at non-american styles of racing, like touring. When properly set up, a FWD car can be decent at drag, but it really isn't thier thing.

Remember- there is more to racing than going straight really fast

They Do drag race with RWD Imports as well and I have seen em with wheelie bars to keep the traction. This is what you ment by touring cars right? http://www.eurostc.com/ G all those are rear wheel drive ALL motorsports are almost aways RWD Indy, KART, IRL, nasecar, v-8 super cars, drift cars everything minus the scca and other smaller budget form of racing. Basically all FWD cars of today are mainly for economy cars, I dont consider 14 seconds in the quater mile with upgrade fast but for a honda it is?

Joey · #41 01-01-2004, 02:05 PM

So, you don't like front-wheel-drive. I think I got it. I never said that it was at all faster than RWD; it sounded like you thought I may have said that.

NovaDK · #42 01-01-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Joey
So, you don't like front-wheel-drive. I think I got it. I never said that it was at all faster than RWD; it sounded like you thought I may have said that.

Now are you talking the real cars or xmods? For real cars RWD is better than FWD For the mini stuff I would say AWD or RWD, I will have to try the FWD to see how it is.

Joey · #43 01-01-2004, 08:45 PM

I think what it comes down to is the weight transfer to the rear under any forward acceleration, which is what we think of as speed, and it happens just the same in any size vehicle. Simple physics. In tiny RC cars, the shift is a whole lot less accented, so there's not as much of a difference. In my experience, the only thing better about FWD for small cars is accelerating uphill; and even that doesn't totally make sense to me, but that's how it's been with the FWD stuff I've seen. AWD is better than either for pretty much anything, save drifting, but only if you've got grip - which XMODS don't.

For real cars, I prefer RWD to anything else, simply because it's the most fun. But I've never been one to push cars much.

Darklancer · #44 01-07-2004, 08:48 PM

That's Very interesting, I don't think I'd do it tho, it ruins drifting ability in cars and after all, drifting is the fastest known way to corner

Joey · #45 01-07-2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Darklancer
...after all, drifting is the fastest known way to corner.

Ok..I'm not going to be the one to start it, but I can tell you that there is a lot to be said for both the validity and the invalidity of that very statement. Don't be surprised if someone contests that.