has any one tried the spin brush motor mod? - Page 6

sokalxballa · #76 11-29-2003, 12:08 PM

YOU DO NOT NEED A PINION PULLER

STAGE TWO MOTOR ARE DIFFERENT THAN STAGE TWO. THE AMOUNT OF WINDS ARE DIFFERENT, THerefore changing RPM. Stage 1 = 26,000 rpm Stage 2 = 30,000

To remove pinion without a puller is possible but will destory your motor if you're not extremly careful. you must use FORCE to get it off or Heat. (not too much)

Brushes are just two little metal pieces that are one the end cap of motors. The RS motors have them but SBP and SB motors do not. That is why we keep the RS end cap and also to cut back on soldering.

Do not change the internals of the SBP motor unless you are trying to lose torque.

An 8 tooth setup and spin motor will have very low top end and excessive torque (good for drifting and drag)

An 11th tooth SBP setup is a more practical application for balencing thatr torque/top end of an SBP.

To get a 8 tooth setup you get a high top end a 5th or 6th cell must be added. The is detrimental to your Xmod. Thermal bbreak down and wear can occur if you run allot. For those people who can easily repair X-mod or have a few dollars I feel it's worth it. an 11 tooth fifth cell is also a beatiful application.

I will be performing a 5-th n cell soon.

rallger · #77 11-29-2003, 03:04 PM

i want to do this but i am a little bit confused and would like some clarification. iallrite so the pinion which is the gear thing at the end of the motor is taken off and then it just pushes onto the sbp and u can just snaop tht eback of a stage 1 or stock onto the back and your golden? this sonds a little too easy. please correct me on anything.

Bulldozer · #78 11-29-2003, 04:43 PM

I think thats right, pretty easy.

I will probably do this mod today, because both other motors i owned are ruined (stock, and stage 2 top speed) I pulled the pinion with a stove and pliers, not good.

hotrod29728 · #79 11-29-2003, 08:47 PM

Help! Im a newbie and i need help...

I want to know if i can run a slot car motor in the x mods cars?
the timing is like 36 degrees and the motor is hand wound
the motor is the same size as the SBP motors but im not sure what kind of energy they need ...
I havent even gotten my X MOD yet but when i get it in the mail i am gonna take it back and swap it for a black civic or a skyline {as of right now its a white supra} but i am hoping some one can help me with this....
Its a group 12 or X-12 motor with 36 degrees timing but also there is a super 16-D and a rotor motor by Parma that i wanna try too...
If someone can help me it would be nice and also if i get my car and thses work i will post an answer......

Thanks Again
Josh

xmodsupra · #80 11-29-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bulldozer
I think thats right, pretty easy.

I will probably do this mod today, because both other motors i owned are ruined (stock, and stage 2 top speed) I pulled the pinion with a stove and pliers, not good.

haha i tried that 2

Bulldozer · #81 11-30-2003, 02:03 AM

w00t! I did it, with the 11 tooth gears its AWESOME, I also bought the foam tires and the suspension kit today, drift heaven.

Mr BigShot · #82 11-30-2003, 02:06 AM

Well after reading this tread i went out and got a spin brush. Then I riped it apart ,and took the motor out

Nexted I went to my local hobbie shop and bought a Nice pinion puller for 8.99 + tax . When i got home i pulled the gear off , switched the plastic end cap , and resoldered every thing . OMG this thing has torque like you would'nt believe

So much torque that I messed up the rear end in my car , and had to super glue something together just to get it to work again

After that i found one of kids rummage sale box's with 3 crapy Rc cars in it , and ripped the motor's out of them.Two were a little bigger then the Xmod motors , but I think i can get them to work . There were also 2 that were the same size . One even had the same company name as the Xmod motor. Well I have to end my wonderful story of my day cause my wife

<---"that's her" is Beepin cause it 1:07am and i have come to bed yet

maikeru · #83 11-30-2003, 03:11 AM

Pictures? could we get some of those i can't understand what you are talking about without visual aids.

neurokinetik · #84 11-30-2003, 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by rallger
i want to do this but i am a little bit confused and would like some clarification. iallrite so the pinion which is the gear thing at the end of the motor is taken off and then it just pushes onto the sbp and u can just snaop tht eback of a stage 1 or stock onto the back and your golden? this sonds a little too easy. please correct me on anything.

Well, you can get away with switching pinions once or twice, at most, normally. There is a brass spacer that tends to get mashed into the windings of the armature when you pull pinions. When this happens, there is alot of play in the motor shaft. Worse, it can cut into the windings, shorting them out.

sokalxballa · #85 11-30-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by maikeru
Pictures? could we get some of those i can't understand what you are talking about without visual aids.

What do you want pics of?
Let me describe this swap in extreme detail.

1. Remove stock motor.
2. The gear on the end of the motor shaft is a brass pinion and it can be removed. As I stated earlier your stock motor will probably take heavy damage if you attempt to pull it off with pliers or without a pinion puller. However you pull it off do it really carfully because the brass gear is easy to destroy by bending the teeth on it. Once you remove the gear set it aside.
3. Still with the stock motor, desolder or heat up the the two sodders conecting the capacitors to the side of the motor. It just looks like a metal hunk on each side. you can use a small torch if you wish. Once those capacitors are free from the side of the motor you will now be able to remove the stock backing plate.
4. Locate the two metal tabs on the side of thee motor. They will be folded into the plastic bacikng plate. find a small screw driver or needle nse pliers and pry them out torward you. do not pry them past the motor shell. after that the plate will be free.
5. Gently pull backing plate from stock motor. set aside.
6. Repeat back plate removal on SBP motor.
7. You may notice that the back plate of the RS motor has to metal strips hanging down with two little blocks of metal that rub on the shaft while the SBP back plate has none. Those are called brushes. The RS motor has good brushes for BETTER contact with the shaft. also you will see that the RS back plate has all the capacitor and connections still on it!!!
8. Place RS motor backing plate on to SBP motor can. be sure the brushes get on ethier side of the shaft.
9. BEnd tabs back so the hold the backing plate on tightly. make sure you shaft spins easily but not too loose.
10. Put the pinion or brass gear on the shaft of the SBP motor. does can be done by putting the gearon a hard suface and the motor shaft into and lighty tapping the rear of the shaft lightly force int motor down and the gear on.
11. Congrats!!! if you did this and you motor spins with a good looking gear on the end you've sucessfully created you own custom SBP (Brush High Torgue) Motor. Place an xmod sticker on it or what ever you want. even put a stock sticker on it to foool people.
12. place yellow sleeves on and reinstall motor as if it was stock.
13. make sure every thing turns smooth if not you may need to readjust the gear postion on the shaft. this is usually not an issue as long as you do not put the gear on the shaft all the way so it rubs the can.
14. DRIFT if you used an 8 tooth setup or rag it out if you got a 11 tooth.
15. Post here telling us how you have burned most of you tires off

sokalxballa · #86 11-30-2003, 01:32 PM

Aiight boys I have finally done it! The 5th N-cell mod is completed and running. This prototype supra is definetly not the fastest I can bulid but definetly no one will have me in drifting. The top end on this thing could take a stage two top end I think I'm racing later so I'll tell you. The placement of the n-cell is perfect no cutting or anything no unly rise in the rear no cells hangin out the bottom.

sokalxballa · #87 11-30-2003, 01:35 PM

sokalxballa · #88 11-30-2003, 01:37 PM

The blue twist tie is going to come off soon b/c I'm going to make a snap in mount.

sokalxballa · #89 11-30-2003, 01:42 PM

My paint is so bad but that's what happens when you lose control and roll over. I'm going to respray in a few days and I'm gettin a new X MOD

hotrod29728 · #90 11-30-2003, 02:11 PM

someone please help me out with the slot car motors !!!!!!!!!!!