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charliebrown 02-20-2004 06:27 PM

One important factor to keep in mind about motors.
 
I just realized something while playing with the Xmod.

I was running freshly charged !C-3 batteries, and the yellow stage 2 motor. It was running EXTREMELY fast, and I loved the powersliding, drifting, and occasional flipping. I felt the motor after 10-20 minutes, and touched a thermometer end to the motor heatsink. You won't believe this, but the temperature rose faster than an Xmod. ;) It went all the way up to 115 degrees Farenheit. Now, I remembered how my Stage 2 blue motor had a LOT of torque, and eventually slowed down.

I remembered something from my science class: When magnets are heated, the particles can get mixed uop in all different directions, causing it to lose magnetic strength. I then decided that because the motor was getting stove-hot, the magnets might be affected because of the heat.

Just a quick reminder, you may want to buy new Neo magnets every now and then to keep the motor up with the torque.

Chuckster...

neurokinetik 02-20-2004 07:01 PM

This is exactly why I buy my own pieces for motors and "roll my own". It is also why I am glad to be involved in this scale rather than the 1/10th scale stuff, because I care a whole lot less about burning up a $4 or $15 motor than a $50 to $75 one...

charliebrown 02-20-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neurokinetik
This is exactly why I buy my own pieces for motors and "roll my own". It is also why I am glad to be involved in this scale rather than the 1/10th scale stuff, because I care a whole lot less about burning up a $4 or $15 motor than a $50 to $75 one...
:rolleyes: Sorry, dude, but you don't need to keep buying new motors.....just keep replacing the magnets. :rolleyes:

Chuckster...

RC 2NR 02-20-2004 11:00 PM

You could also get a BB can to keep things a little cooler.

scott 02-20-2004 11:14 PM

what about a magnet zapper like they use for 1/10 motors?

racemini89 02-21-2004 05:29 PM

this is a stupid ? but you think if i put the motor in the freezer or fridge it would help.

charliebrown 02-21-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by racemini89
this is a stupid ? but you think if i put the motor in the freezer or fridge it would help.
:rolleyes: putting the motor in a freezer won't put the magnetic molecules back in their postion, in fact it helps it stay in that position!

Chuckster...

spinitsidewayz! 02-21-2004 09:22 PM

maybe this is why my older sb hybrid got slow. i ran it w/o a heat sink... time for an overhaul.:D

RC 2NR 02-21-2004 09:29 PM

How do you know that Neo magnets won't loose their strength when exposed to heat?

spinitsidewayz! 02-21-2004 10:13 PM

i think he meant keep some around so when the ones in ur motor get weak you can swap them.

boxcrash 02-21-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neurokinetik
This is exactly why I buy my own pieces for motors and "roll my own". It is also why I am glad to be involved in this scale rather than the 1/10th scale stuff, because I care a whole lot less about burning up a $4 or $15 motor than a $50 to $75 one...
Yeah and 50-75 is pretty good prices. Some of them are over $100 and if you get into the brushless ones, where are talking $350+.:D :eek:

SupraDJ 02-22-2004 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charliebrown
:rolleyes: Sorry, dude, but you don't need to keep buying new motors.....just keep replacing the magnets. :rolleyes:

Chuckster...

actually, i fried one of my motor then i put that magnet is a different motor and it still spun pretty fast. i put new neos in the motor i fried, it wouldnt spin at all.

spinitsidewayz! 02-22-2004 08:36 PM

so what are the parts of the motor that die out?

RC 2NR 02-22-2004 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spinitsidewayz!
so what are the parts of the motor that die out?
The magnets and the brushes (like when you work on the motor and bend them).

Racer9 02-23-2004 04:27 PM

It also may help to drill large holes (relative to the motor size) in both sides where there is no magnets. It will help with cooling for sure! It also may help if someone does a quad magnet motor because they are supposed to help the motor stay cooler longer.:)


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