you guys like to drift rite?
 

basically ive looked at some drift cars and all they are is a 4wd chassis with pvc tyre so i fiqure lets try in a 1:24 instrad of a 1:10 .. works a treat if you have AWD i used bottle caps (the plastic type) but now im going to get some PVC end caps and try them.... if you dont know wat im talking about look up 1:10 drift cars and watch some video of them

Yokomo drift cars are liek any other 1/10 sedan with PVC tires...
hell even a TC3 can do what it does...
(w/ PVC tires)
Mini X's are good drifters also...

Drifting is fun, but drag racing is more important.

Circuit is MOST important...
lol

I can drift with stock tires anyway, so why do I need to buy tires for it?

talking bout 1/10 man...

I know you are, but he was talking about 1:24 scale drift tires.

they dont sell drift tires for Mini X's...
pple use PVC piping as "drift tires".

I know, but he was talking about making some.

90% driver skill vs 10% driving skill. just wanted to point that out. but w/e floats ur boat, its all good. i drift my xmod rwd.;)

i powerslide my xmod RWD..
lol
and the Yokomo Drift Cars dont use PVC they use the so called "drift rings"...

Do you have any idea about driving?! Dragging is tough! Let's see, what's your reaction time? What's your 60 foot time? Drag racing seems to have this myth around it that it is easy. It is not. You might be able to floor it off the line in a Civic, but hop into a Mustang, and you'll just light the tires. Do you leave the line when the light turns green? If so, I'd bet you'd lose a lot. What happens when your car does a wheelie? You gonna stay on it? How about shifting? You think that you canshift at just the right point to keep the motor in its powerband? What about what RPM you launch at? Don't talk about stuff you don't know about.

more of a 30% skill and restr is up to performance...
haveing a 0.00 reaction time is really hard!

30%?! You just said it yourself, the r/t is really hard to get perfect!

yes i do know a thing or two about driving...i dont have a clue what my reaction time is..(never tried at the track)
with the drifting/drag thing, think about it like this.. if you take a little civic and set it next to a modified one at the strip with both guys at roughly the same skill level. hmm... does reaction time really play apart in this? i never said drag racing was easy... but if you think about it very much of the outcome depends on the car too. take drifting on the other hand... doesnt really matter what youre driving.. (in relation to speed and tuning... heck even some ff drifters can take out most of the rwd guys..) just that you know how to drive it at its limits. stick someone with pretty basic drift skill in a tuned 240 against someone more hardcore in a more stock version... drifting or even any type of curcuit track racing requires more skill then dragging. adding on top of the shifting and staying in your powerband and such you gotta also put the turns into play and braking points and rev matching and weight transfer and try to keep the best line possible. this is what i was trying to say with the skill level:

drift: 90% skill 10% car
drag: not really sure but i still say its mostly car ;)

i know they may not represent the whole drag racing crowd but most guys i know who drag spend much more time talking about modifications to help make their cars faster and such...(most are jerks) christian rado of scc is an ass! talking crap about drifters and saying he can do it:rolleyes: and the light thing.. everyone does it... (damn street racers lol)

my fault for starting this discussion:) i respect your stand on drag racing but i dont know why youre getting so agressive against me...

i just want to know what you meant by dragging is more important???

You have no idea. You can get a stock Mustang GT into the low 13s if you drive really well (and have some good tires). It depends a lot on skill. Have you ever seen a bracket race? That means that if you run exactly your dial in, you guys should hit the finish line at the same time. So yes, it has a lot to do with skill. And BTW, I do think drifting is hard, harder than drag racing, but I'm writing to point out that drag racing is hard also.

ahh.. i never said it was easy.. ofcourse reaction time is gonna play a big role in braket racing.. does it matter much in bracket if you can get a mustang into the 13's...? backets all skill and knowing your limits with some luck involved(breaking out, missing a shift point, etc.) bracket racing and just regular drag racing contrast like day and night! but did you read my post? i'm agreeing with you.. well i just think that its easy to learn to drag race.. but.... its very difficult to master, yes. on the other hand drifting takes alot of broken parts just to grasp. its late and im damn tired from typing up this report i have for history so im not gonna get all drawn out on this... but geez stop saying i have no idea.. do you have the experience in drag racing to back up what youre saying?

:D :D


Has anyone used model kit tires on their 1/24 4wd car for drifting? What else have you used or heard about?

I really like that bottle cap idea, and I've seen Ikinari pipe tures in action also, but do these 'tires' it make it really hard to steer though? I drift my mini-x on tarmac with stock Overland tires, but it rolls a lot, so I might try the bottle cap idea, I tried with electrical tape over the wheels, which is fine on wood/linoleum, but gets eaten up on tarmac...

you can go buy a set of xmod tires. (the "upgrade')
and use the little plastic things to fit over the tire.

If we are talking about Xmods here, it's really hard to keep the car straight. If we are talking about real cars here, dragging is tough, watch an unskilled driver in a honda civic SI hit a 16.7 then watch a skilled driver hit a 15.9. Anyone who says dragging is 10% skill is 14 and watches too much initial D...It's pointless to argue on this Xmod forum where everyone has access to it and impossible to establish credibility. On one hand it's hard to even establish any credibility with drifting, because it requires the right environment and right car, as opposed to dragging which can be done from light to light in any car.

No one is going to get a stock GT into the low 13s. Mid 13s with some drag radials maybe, not low. 14.0 is the best stock I've ever seen, and I have seen a lot of GTs run.

"(and have some really good tires)" I should of made that clearer. Yes, on drag tires. I saw a bone stock Mach 1 run a 12.7 The owner was dumbfounded.

ok sir, ill burn my dvd's right away:) 10% skill thing was an exaggeration. i gess what i was trying to say was that anyone can drag light to light(maybe not win but still... light to light) right enviornment and right car? all you need is some tarmac and 4 wheels.( uh oh, initial d influence) the car doesnt even have to be rwd unless you consider ff assdragging. or you could go minus the tarmac and you got rally drifting. maybe the two arnt even comparable because in one you are pushing the limits of the vehicle and in the other i guess youre balancing the laws of physics?