hehe, got a NOS motor today, abnd that things has GOBS of torque, i was making it climb 50 degree plus inclines and it was taking it like a champ.
BTW henry, my advice to you is to not put the motors in without some kind of modification, whether it is chassis or motor (i do the motors, since they are cheaper

) You can, but i've seen the rear end tab split and wear prematurely from using a stock ZZ motor in a stock BCG motor area (my rx-7 is proof of that, and hte inspiration for my coming up with the motor mod)
heh i need to get new wire clippers, mine can barely cut the ZZ contacts anymore.
anywho, i noticed that the lower end ZZ motors are seemingly poor performers as far as torque goes, blue motors are just too slow, the green ones are ok for flat courses with tight corners, red is a nice all purpose engine (only an acceptable climber though), and hte yellow (NOS) motor is like heaven...so much torque alone that it wins me over, heh ive got to get a 1.6 to se if this thing can outclimb it.
If not, its still going to be one of my motors of choice.