
11-02-2002, 05:30 PM
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Perfected Bit Modder
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Location: Corvallis, OR
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CLONE CHAR-G??
Clone Char-g??
dose any one know what parts from the clone char-g/bullet racer are compatible with the bit??
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11-02-2002, 11:01 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Columbia, MD
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rmyc: Noticed you're from Corvalis, my wife is originally from Grants Pass.
I went to the hobby store tonite looking for a motor for my Z-car...it has a stock 2.2 in it right now and I'd like to upgrade it. Anyways, they seemed to think that the Microsizer's engine wouldn't work in the Z-Car....however at the beginning of this thread it says it will. Has this been confirmed???
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11-04-2002, 09:39 PM
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go Go GO, JBit Mifune!
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: NYC
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this is a great thread - for the price the performance kit is worth a buy - to squeeze those motors in the poor char-g!
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11-05-2002, 12:05 PM
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FunkMasterFlex #13
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Hey guys i'm new to this forum and to zz/char-g cars. um i firts saw these things in the mall and i have the exact same brand that was in the pic above. i'm not sure but i think it is really similar to char-g's. basically what i am wondering is if n e one could tell me if all char-g mods and upgrade would work on my car or not. i dont know of n e places that sell upgrades for char-g's in my area but there are tons of radio shacks. ZZ cars seem to be a lot cheaper to upgrade and the availablity of the upgrades is very easy. basically i was wondering if u guys think i should stick with upgrading my car(with parts from this site) or if i should just go out and get a ZZ. my firends dad has soldering capabilities(computer repair tech) so my current ideal for a setup would be 2 NiMH batteries,axel kit, new tires and a 2.6 or 3.0 motor.
black knight- i noticed u live in MD lol. me 2 if u have n e ideas for places where i can get bit char-g up grades it would help a lot(i dont really want to buy a ZZ). i live in montgomery county and i dont have a drivers licence so closer locations would be useful.
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11-05-2002, 04:21 PM
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Paintballa: I live in Columbia, MD Howard Co. so I'm not too familiar with Montgomery Co. I originally wanted to buy a ZipZap but couldn't find a Radio Shack that had 'em in stock. Althought the Radio Shack in the Columbia Mall has upgrades for 'em. There's also a hobby shop in Columbia Mall that has $20 clones and $40 Microsizers, they also had some upgrade parts for Microsizers but very little. I ended up getting an Atomic Toys Z-Car from Discovery Store...and haven't found any place selling upgrades for it. There's a rumor that Arundel Mills Mall has a kiosk with these things and upgrades but haven't had a chance to check it out.
If I was sure it'd fit I'd just buy a Bit 3.x engine from TinyRC.
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11-05-2002, 04:27 PM
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FunkMasterFlex #13
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yeah i got mine from a kiosk at lakeforest mall i had to deal with the guy cause he wanted to sell me 2 for $50 so i got it down to 2 for $40 with an extra celica body(it doesnt say it but it definitly is). my friend and i are probably going to get stuff from this storeeven though its peobably going to be more expensive.
man i love these things
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11-06-2002, 08:55 AM
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Perfected Bit Modder
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if you've got the same clone as the one i pictured in my last post, then the compatibility is:
motor: the motor is the exact same as a red turbo zipzap, and other zipzap motors fit.... the bit motor dosen't fit though..
every thing else interchanges with the bit, like : wheels, struts, car, bodytop etc
i hope this will help y'all
i still would buy the real thing. the one i bought has steering problems,. oh well, i got it for parts any ways
later
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11-06-2002, 08:23 PM
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FunkMasterFlex #13
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hmmm according to every thing else i've read the zipzap motor is bigger then the bits so bit motors work on zipzaps but zipzap motors take some force to work on bits. soooo... i dont know why bit motors wouldnt work on mine. anyway i hope that they fit cause my friend and i just put in an order today for some bit motors. o well thanx guys
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12-18-2002, 06:22 PM
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ZipZap vs. Char-G clone motor measurements
Here are some measurements of a ZipZap motor vs. a Sen Fa Char-G clone motor...
ZipZap motor is:
6.04mm diameter
12.21mm length (total can length, not including shaft or contact)
Char-G clone motor:
6.04mm diameter
12.14mm length
I have had no problems using ZipZap motors in my Char-G clone.
This may not be true with a "real" Char-G or MicroSizer.
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12-19-2002, 02:57 PM
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Ahhh, now I see the difference between a "clone" and a genuine Tomy motor. I just got a Hot Wheels K.I.T. (made by Tomy) racer from Target ($6), and here are the measurements of the motor:
Diameter = 6.07mm
Length = 11.85mm
I'm assuming that the KIT motors are the same as the BCG motors. The KIT racer also has a 50mAh Tomy NiCd cell. Someone please let me know if my assumption is wrong, as I am a microRC-n00b!
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12-19-2002, 03:28 PM
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Retarded Stunt Driver
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ok all of this is from 1st hand experience with
zipzaps 3 different brands of clones and a zcar.
motors are all interchangeable**
bit motors tend to not fit perfectly in zipzaps and some clone motor wells. the motor is too short. if you put a tiny drop of solder on the terminal on the back. ive done this on 3 motors and it helped on all 3 of them.
from what i can see clones are 99% compatable with bits. other than bodies zcars are totally compatable. (which can be remedied with an adaptor)
the same goes with zipzaps other than bodies and front wheels. and zipzaps motors wont take over a 2.2 or so.
i have about 10 motors now and by far my favorite is the oem motor than came in my "Thor" clone. thats about the only good thing about that clone. but ive tested the motor in 4 clones a zcar and a zipzap and it by far outperfomed tomy and zcar 2.6 motors.
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12-20-2002, 09:52 AM
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zz heatsink
I just thought I would add this little piece of info. In the begining of this thread it lists the zz heatsink as not compatible with bits. Well, yes it is with slight modification. When I recieved my new microsizer chasis and 2.2 motor I wanted to drive it right away. I noticed the chasis they sent me had no heat sink. I still had the heat sink from the zz tuner kit. So rather than robbing a heatsink from another car I tried to make the zz work. I took out the screw and with a pair of pliers straightend the tab down. Fits and works great. This also alows me to use the zz motors with less hassle. I'm sure someone already figured this out but it wasnt mentioned on this thread.
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12-29-2002, 11:26 PM
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TinyRC Pro
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Does anyone know if the motors from the "Shen Qi Wei" cars will fit in a the microsizer/bitchar-g. They have a 4.0 motor for sale!!!! I was gonna buy it but im not sure if it will fit
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01-03-2003, 11:07 AM
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Xmodder
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Is bit char-g parts compatable with bensu mini racers?
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01-03-2003, 02:55 PM
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DDR PIMP
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Location: kansas
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Thunder Chargers parts that fit
motor- yes, although it's a hair longer than the Tony motors
body- no, too long
suspension bars- yes
heatsinks- yes
axles/gears-yes
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