
11-19-2002, 07:02 PM
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ZZ are cool and are great when you put a Bit or MS board in them other wise they are slow and have no power!!!!!
As far as detail well I like my Bit Char-G I have a MS Celica and it is not even comparable to my Bit bodies! Then again I have the GTR set and Fairlady Z and the NSX and Supra bodies!
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11-19-2002, 07:08 PM
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TinyRC Pro
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ZZ can't touch those bodies!!!
i have the PT crusier, Blue Civic, Maroon SVT, Silver Porsche and FF kit the Eclipse is nice and the Civc looks good PT not bad but nothing compared to the Bit cars I got.
But this all my opinion so what does it matter LOL.
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11-19-2002, 08:18 PM
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I really should change my title...
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Ok first of all I find the range arguement weak. I mean how long does it take to remove a capacitors and get more then 20 feet. In addition to that there are multiple zz's (27mhz) that can never get more then 2 to 5 feet due to manufacturing error.
As for the bodies the Bit Char G is vastly more realistic. The splits in the body panels are more distinct, the head and tail lights lack the toy look, and the paint seems more like paint on metal.
Now on to the handling and stability. Naturally a slower car turns easier. Grip in turning is porportional to speed of the car. Slow car will always turn better because physics makes it easier.
Now as for durablility, my bit took a 5 foot nose dive on to asphalt. There is a slight scratch on the air dam. Nothing more.
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11-19-2002, 08:37 PM
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Told ya.
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 I have 3 zips, all 4 F&F bodies the cobra and crusier.
I don't have a bit yet(45mhz supra in the mail) but I have tested a couple of microsizers and I must say that I wasn't all that impressed. I keep hearing the vast speed difference between the cars stock but I really didn't see it.
I got into these micros because of the portability and have fun modding them as well as racing them. I think all this hype is silly. If you have a bit, microsizer, zip or a clone, just enjoy it and stop whining like little kids "mine is better than yours!!!"
Everybody needs to calm down. If your not happy with speed or range or detail then do something about it.
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11-19-2002, 09:04 PM
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Yup, I see it that way too. I've played with Microsizers in the local hobby shop and I liked the quality of the ZZs more. The scrunched proportions of the sizer puts me off right away. The car I played with had been beat up a little, but holding it in my hands and looking at it closely just left me liking the ZZs more. I do like the clear lenses and some of the paint jobs, but the shape is too toy like. The wheels are just to close together. I hate the stock rims as they again have a solid chrome toy look to them. The ZZ tires are also much more realistic with the tread patterns offered and everyone admits that the handling is sweet. The only real issue seems to be speed. I must say that a ZZ with the red gears and the NOS motor is too fast to road race on a good challenging track (mine is 35ft long in all). A lighter body seems all that is needed to add a little more juice. Also, it's nice that the body cavity can actually hold up to three batteries if insane speed is your bag. Drag racing doesn't really interest me right now, so I don't understand this gotta be the fastest screamer out there retoric. Just give me a nice complex track and someone to race beside. I do plan to get true bits in the future just so I can race more cars at once. But, the Petit Marus are looking pretty good. Especially when the new bodies come out.
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11-19-2002, 09:39 PM
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No, no, not slamming anyones preference. I plan to have a variety of these things. I was just stating my own preference and why. I don't really see that as a slam to anyone in particular.
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11-19-2002, 09:40 PM
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i don't think anyone is slaming others cars, this started out as a comparison between owners of bits and zips or both. just lots of peoples opinions, nothing more, nothing less. if you take it personaly, well i guess there isn't any thing we can do but say there is no reason to. i find it interesting to read others view of the same thing. it's just like what you said about fords and chevys. just preference. so sit back and enjoy and post if you have an opinion.
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11-19-2002, 10:33 PM
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I don't even think there can be a comparison. Zips have better bodies IMO. As for speed....Bits(and even their clones) kick our arse. From what I've seen anyways. If you put a bit's PCB in a Zip, you just can't get a better mini. Zips are also an easier size of car to find Misc. bodies for. Like 1:64 slot cars we all used to play with when we were younger. I'd also hate modifying anything smaller then a Zips size. They have my vote, but out-of-the-box, I'd take the Bit for it's speed. Out-of-the-box being the key word.
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11-19-2002, 10:38 PM
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couldn't have said it better, stridex.
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11-19-2002, 11:23 PM
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TinyRC Pro
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well so far i luv my zip zap, i get more than 20ft range and i didnt even do that cripple capacitator mod i just changed my antenna on the pcb, the speeds good and the handling is too, im really excited cuz im gettin the 2.8 monkey rotor soon!. well i really wanna get a bit too, i think there all cool and all have teh pors/cons. i wouldnt care wich one i had
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11-20-2002, 02:45 AM
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Bit Nutz
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Im really Hating my Evil Zip Zap
im so pissed at this damn thing my cousin and i both got one i got the 27 MHz Pt crusier he's got the blue cvic i think 49MHz so i challanged him to a race thinking he would play fair nope he didnt that day he went and got the tune up kit with the red motor i on the other hand have the green motor with the blue gear well we get setup and wham hes gone im chugging along and what makes it worse is that i only get about 3 feet before it starts shuttering that was emberssing that i had to follow my Evil Zip Zap and he stood where he was running circles around me im so hoping my mach 5 bit kick his zz arse ( it will)
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11-20-2002, 05:25 AM
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Racemonster, that's what makes these things so great. You know you can buy hop-up kits from other cars online and kick his butt next time? You can do some hidden mods as well to help. First you need to do the antenna mod. If you're good with a soldering iron, switch out the PCB board with a bit's or a z-car and if you each have the same motor and gears, he doesn't stand a chance. Heck, you'd probably beat him with the Zip stock motor. Your loss should only motivate you. Once you get into it more, build a track with some incline and he won't even know what hit him.
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11-20-2002, 11:15 AM
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I really should change my title...
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Re: Im really Hating my Evil Zip Zap
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Originally posted by Racemonster505
im so pissed at this damn thing my cousin and i both got one i got the 27 MHz Pt crusier he's got the blue cvic i think 49MHz so i challanged him to a race thinking he would play fair nope he didnt that day he went and got the tune up kit with the red motor i on the other hand have the green motor with the blue gear well we get setup and wham hes gone im chugging along and what makes it worse is that i only get about 3 feet before it starts shuttering that was emberssing that i had to follow my Evil Zip Zap and he stood where he was running circles around me im so hoping my mach 5 bit kick his zz arse ( it will)
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Well that's why they have rules in racing. You had a car that qualifies for stock car racing while your cousin had a modified...That makes it unfair,
I like to have the cars dead even so it only comes down to the driver.
The second I got my Bit I gave it to my brother and I had my ZZ cruiser, I had to upgrade motors and gears to keep up to compensate for the extra weight etc., but on a drag race both cars were right next to each other. SO we had fun around our homemade track! Before a race you need to set a rule and inspect cars to make sure they are not rigged.
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11-20-2002, 11:24 AM
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Put another antenna on that 27mghz car. Replace the stock battery with one of the 280mA ones you can get online (you have to buy 16 of them tho, but still quite cheap) and add another battery to your charger in series. I'm not sure a PCB swap is really needed after these tweeks.
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11-20-2002, 12:48 PM
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Bit Nutz
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Oh belive me i called foul when i heard but the biggest problem is the range but belive me he'll lose
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