mini-x electronics

3series takumi · #1 03-10-2003, 12:00 AM

does any one know the best electronics to get (receiver, esc, and servos). I hear that the Novak Spy esc is a great one to use for this scale of cars but are there any that are cheaper.

Do glider and small aircraft servos work on the X. The generally are pretty small but i dont know if they have the power that the car needs

catman25 · #2 03-10-2003, 06:46 AM

honestly seeing how there isnt any motor upgrades you should stick with the mini x electronics..the esc,reciever,servo, crystal cost bout the same as 1 spy.and they work great.they can handle a 6 cell set up. and are quite fast.but with no motor upgrades your stuck with what your stuck with unless you want to mod the chassis or loose four wheel drive.

binaryterror · #3 03-10-2003, 07:08 AM

I do also like the X electronics alot. They have performed well for me with six batteries and i even tested them in my project car which has a modified 180 size motor. The componenets are all small and meant to fit eaxtly as planned.

The spy is a waste of money, it is very large in comparison to other ESC's and handles less. There are others in the market which out perform them.

As far as recievers go, the Hitec Shredder is the smallest ever made, however they have been discontinued, so good luck finding anything other than ebay and a few odds and ends places. Even the hitec seems a bit large and out of shape compared to the stock X receiver.

The stock servo works fine, and is a common Hitec HS-55. You can get them just about anywhere.

Tinyrc sells all this for $65, i think you still need a crystal though, but $65 is better than $60 for the Spy, about $50 for the Hitec Shredder and $25 for the Hitec HS-55.

catman25 · #4 03-10-2003, 05:35 PM

hey i just bought a novak spy

binaryterror · #5 03-10-2003, 06:01 PM

HAHAHAHA

I have been doing alot of shopping and reading, most racing people tend to avoid the Spy. But for a DRR that should be fine, my next RC is the WWS 1/18th scale RS4 killer. It comes stock with a Speed 300 motor which will ignite a spy quite quickly.

catman25 · #6 03-10-2003, 07:29 PM

im a broken man with no money and finally the mini x is on its way back to me :-)

binaryterror · #7 03-10-2003, 09:00 PM

My experiment with making my own chassis has ended for a while, no time or ambition any longer, however i can not wait for IRC to get in the 1/18th WWS car...

I know how the no money blues goes...

3series takumi · #8 03-15-2003, 12:53 AM

i just put in a novak XXL receiver, a TeamOrion Flash ESC and a Hitec hs-55 servo. The best combo I have tried. Everything works flawless with no gliches running 4-8 cells. And the best thing is I have good brakes and reverse. The mini-z out there cant touch my X. I will post some pictures and maybe a movie of me killing my friend turbo mini-z as soon as i finsh my Evo body and get good placement of the ESC and wires.

tinyrc · #9 03-16-2003, 10:24 PM

3series takumi, post those pics to Mini-ZRacer.com too, I'm having a tough time convincing those guys just how great the X is!

binaryterror · #10 03-19-2003, 10:15 PM

[Super Crazy Mad Voice]
RAH....

The Mini-X will destroy your puny Mini-Z!!!!

[/Super Crazy Mad Voice]

SteveK · #11 03-22-2003, 12:52 AM

For mini and micro R/Cs, I recommend 1/10th scale ESCs like the GM V3R, Futaba MC230 and 330, and several LRP speedos. They are just as small as the made-for-Micro ESCs (Except the Airtronics ES01, but that's for the stock Mabuchi 130-180 motors only), but they have no motor limit with motors smaller than 540s. People are always pumping bigger motors and batts into their Micro RS4s, and none of the Micro ESCs say they can outright handle a Big Block and 6 cells.

I have a Mini X, got a roller off ebay, and I'm wondering about electronics myself. I have a V3R and MC230, an FMA Direct micro servo, and only standard AM RECs, and I don't know it if will all fit or not. Guess I'll just have to do some fiddling.

3series takumi · #12 03-22-2003, 01:57 AM

that is a good idea to put in 1/10th scale electronics if they can fit. the only problem i see is that alot of them need 8 cells. some run with six but glitch. also those 1/10 esc's will eat AAA's with a big motor. oh yeah it is hard to fit anything other than a 130 type motor without heavy mods. by the time you get everything to fit you will probably have a 1/10 scale car. i have all micro parts and i am still tryin to fit everything in without craming. (team orion esc, hitec -55 servo, and novak xxl receiver, w/5 cells) post some pics of some of those electronics. maybe i can help fix up somethin.

fastboy · #13 03-22-2003, 07:36 AM

what are you on about...a lot of 1/10th radio gear needs 8 cells??? 1/10 radio gear is designed to run on 6 cells and some even 4 cells(but mainly need 5 cells for reciever),maybe you should not comment on stuff you dont know about?

dave

3series takumi · #14 03-22-2003, 01:50 PM

Have you tried running those electronics on the X. remember these are AAA cells and they are not just powering the recever, they also have to give some current to the motor, esc and servo. if you have used the stock (micro parts) it is already slow, and those parst are made to run with AAA cells. I may not know tonsof things about R/C's but i am speaking from trying this stuff out. I wouldnt post information unless i have tried it. if you see a flaw in somethin i say prove it or give examples of a better way, instead of just saying i am wrong.

fastboy · #15 03-22-2003, 02:51 PM

what do you want me to prove??..that 1/10th gear is designed for 6 cells??..maybe you should ask one of the many rc car electronic manufactures,or just ask anyone who races 1/10th,i have btw at national level for almost 15 yrs.

putting 1/10 gear in a mini x would cause no more problems than using the stock electronics that come with it and yes i have tried the x electronics..i have 2 of them sat here and another set in a dtm-x4.

there is nothing much wrong with the x electrics,the car is slow because of the motor being a low performance unit not because of AAA cells or the speedo.or do you mean the servo slow?..well you could always fit a hitec servo which will be faster.

if you feel you need the speedcontroller to be able to handle more current flow then you can add more FET's to the spare places on the circuit board just infront of the stock fets.
i use 6AAA in my rocket racer and with a stock or a stock 180 motor the car is quicker than on 6 AA cells because of the power to weight ratio.

the only time you may suffer with AAA cells not being able to supply enough current is with highly modified 180 motor ie, orion or hpi 45t motor.
if you are getting glitching on 6 cells it is usually 1 or 2 things:

1 cells not charged/bad cells.
2 motor not having any capacitors fitted
3 poor routing of the wiring..try to keep the reciever away from the motor and make sure that no power wires from the battery/motor run across it
4 you could always fit a power cap the the speedcontroller to help with the voltage drop under accelaration.

please dont take my previous post to heart..i just hate seeing posts about things which are correct

any questions plz ask