I have to disagree.....

hawks10 · #1 09-30-2002, 01:23 AM

It seems like most people dont think too highly of the zipzaps....well I am not one of them, in fact, I think they are great.....

1. The range on my ZZ is 20+ feet, the range on my bit is about 4 to 5ft.
2. They are much more stable and easy to control.
3. The bodies look much better becuase of detail, scale, and quality, and the rim feature is nice.
4. Inexpensive

The only drawback is that the bodies are very heavy which is why they are a little slower, I am gonna mod my body to make it lighter, then the ZZ's will be a bit killer.

Dont get me wrong, I still love bits, but it seems like my ZZ outperforms the bit in almost every category.

(by the way, I put a 32" telescoping atenna on the ZZ controller, and replaced the car atenna wire with one from qfm.com's shop, the range and consistency is great!!)

JediYoda56 · #2 09-30-2002, 01:44 AM

Hi All,

I am new to the whole microRC thing but I have to say the ZZ has been alot of fun so far. I still one plan on buying a bit/microsizer for comparsion and extra freq.

I am happy with the zz thus far. I do plan on doing the longer battery mods right away.

On a sad note my local RC shop is selling the Microsizers for $40. Damn you can get 2 zz's for that. Aren;t they supposed to be $30? Guess I will just try and buy a tomy off of ebay, maybe even get a clone as well.

usagi · #3 09-30-2002, 01:58 AM

Some of the neg comments are made but people that are mainly 1/10 scale runners. And when the word "Radio Shack" appears they think "JUNK" well this is small minded people. HHEHE and the same people at are HPI micro rs4 followers........

MTL · #4 09-30-2002, 02:57 AM

4-5 feet on a bit???!! u gotta be kidding..do some mods to it yo..
the ONLY reason i bought my ZZ is for the rims and gears...thats really all...i put those on my BIt

right now my ZZ is sitting on the floor, i havent touched it since an hour after i got it a couple days ago

Nightwing · #5 09-30-2002, 03:42 AM

The thing that will be intersting is which stands up to abuse better. A Bit or ZZ.

From many thread it sounds like Bits take more stress than all of the OEM but do break. But as time goes along how will the ZZ survive? A thicker drive body may outlast a Bit.

gRC · #6 09-30-2002, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Nightwing
The thing that will be intersting is which stands up to abuse better. A Bit or ZZ.

I have driven my ZZ down wooden stairs several times. I have also had it fall from tables, desks, and shelves onto carpet. It has not suffered any damage... yet.

arch2b · #7 09-30-2002, 01:48 PM

I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE COMPARISON OF ZZ BODIES TO BIT'S. I WANTED TO DO THE WHEEL MOD, SO I BOUGHT A ZZ AND I ENDED UP GETTING THE F&F SET AS WELL. WHILE THE BODIES ARE MORE TO SCALE LENGTH WISE, THE HAVE FAR LESS DETAIL AND QUALITY, NOT TO MENTION THEIR THICKNESS, RIDE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE F&F CARS AND AMERICAN MADE CARS BUT THE ZZ'S FEEL LIKE CLUSMY KNOCK OFFS. NOT NEAR THE QUALITY OF THE SAY THE BITS' CELICA OR SKYLINE. I WILL AGREE ON THE BETTER HANDLING AND STABILITY BUT NOT ON QUALITY OF APPEARANCE.
HAS ANYONE USED HO SCALE BODIES YET?

Racemonster505 · #8 09-30-2002, 02:01 PM

yes i was possed into buying one for my daughter she likes it but i hate the controller i got big fingers so it hard to get smooth control. i got the purple PT cruiser ,27 MHz,16,000 RPM motor, 12:1 gearing ,factory tires it looks ok but i think Bits look better but oh well i just got to get a bit to smoke the Evil ZZ then there will be peace in my little world

blacksabbath070 · #9 09-30-2002, 04:42 PM

i like bit cahr-gs better because the bodies have more detail, their faster, and their original but for the price zzs arent bad

arch2b · #10 09-30-2002, 07:52 PM

i had a conversation with the manager at my local rs who explained to me that initially, each store was sent a rather small distribution of zz's (in his case only twelve-actual cars, which i bought the second to last one) with the intention of gauging individual store sales to determine further distribution numbers. i don't know how useful this info is, just thought i would pass it on.

Nightwing · #11 09-30-2002, 08:30 PM

Same at the one close to me. Its been picked clean!

Went today to see if they had anything new.

Shacky · #12 09-30-2002, 08:36 PM

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The good news is that new cars are coming soon.

Does that mean Spongebob is on the way? I saw a picture of it. Custom hubcaps and Spongebob behind the wheel of a boat.

Nightwing · #13 09-30-2002, 08:38 PM

Jaw droped right through the floor! I guest the figure was going to drive a boat.

Yes would be nice if in next batch.

wild03 · #14 11-19-2002, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by arch2b
I WOULD HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE COMPARISON OF ZZ BODIES TO BIT'S. I WANTED TO DO THE WHEEL MOD, SO I BOUGHT A ZZ AND I ENDED UP GETTING THE F&F SET AS WELL. WHILE THE BODIES ARE MORE TO SCALE LENGTH WISE, THE HAVE FAR LESS DETAIL AND QUALITY, NOT TO MENTION THEIR THICKNESS, RIDE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE F&F CARS AND AMERICAN MADE CARS BUT THE ZZ'S FEEL LIKE CLUSMY KNOCK OFFS. NOT NEAR THE QUALITY OF THE SAY THE BITS' CELICA OR SKYLINE. I WILL AGREE ON THE BETTER HANDLING AND STABILITY BUT NOT ON QUALITY OF APPEARANCE.
HAS ANYONE USED HO SCALE BODIES YET?

I'll have to disagree on the quality issue but I only have a bit and 3 ZZ bodies to compare. I have a RX-7 bit and a Mustang, PT cruiser, and RX-7 ZZs, the quality on the ZZs can't be compared, I don't know If I got a crappy body on my bit, but the paint is not even, and you can see the edges. My friends bits look much better. I do like the RX-7 shape of the Bit better than the ZZ. There's something wrong with the front end of the ZZ RX-7 that doesn't seem right. But the other 2 cars look realistic and have great detail.
All the bits I have seen lack a rear window, What's with that hole backthere.

One of the major drawbacks that I see on the BIts is their controller. the buttons are big but not as smooth, they have this clicking feel...THE ANTENA! is plain CHEAP! The ZZ controllers are easily modifiable and have the handy screwdriver

And you can argue either way on the locking charging pod.

The hub caps feature is nice on the ZZ's but I do like the way the rubber tires sit on the Bits rims. seems more even...

SO overall I think they both have their good features and the bad, but the crappy controller and the extra money of the bits makes the ZZs the clear winner to me.

just my two cents!

Nightwing · #15 11-19-2002, 06:36 PM

If you want to be shocked on details try one of the new busses! Cant bleave the details!