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Old 09-04-2004, 03:48 PM
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Alright, I figured this should be done to share my findings with all of you great people so here it is.

The first major thing that I would like to point out is that I am from Canada and the SE was purchased here in Canada. The second thing that I would like to point out is that this is a fairly recent build of the SE as it was built in May 2004. This is interesting because a lot of people in Canada complained that we were getting old stock from the States and they were plagued with problems.

I purchased the Red/Orange Mustang from my local Radio Shack expecting the worst. I honestly believed that due to complaints of early SE's being faulty coupled with the fact that Canada had seemed to be getting these old models would mean that I was bound to be returning my SE for a refund never to look at the SE again. I was wrong. My brother accompanied me and knew that I expected to be disapointed so we had a plan. We were going to stay at the mall and test it out completely before we left so that if I was to be getting a refund that it would be immediate. We opened the package and began to find all the goodies.

Bilingual instructions were included as with anything sold in Canada these days, unless not being sold in Quebec or New Brunswick. Anyway, moving on I inspected the body up close. I was not highly impressed ... the paint was not evenly applied and black lines were not completely straight. Maybe not a huge gripe but, afterall, I did just sped $39.99 CAN on this little guy. The controller felt small but MUCH more comfortable than any other micro I own or had used. After assembly which was almost a breeze (but NOT for an 8 year old as the minimum age suggests) I laid it down on the smooth concrete of an underground parking lot. Along side it was a black dodge charger Motor Works micro. Off they went. The lights on the new SE glowed brightly as it moved steadily away.

Then it stopped. The car was dead about 4 feet away. A radio reception problem. Why did the car stop only 4 feet away? Maybe it was the underground parking lot but who knows. The cars shot off again and the Mustang was put to the test of its first turning experience. It turned smoothly. I'd never seen a mirco do that before. So I made a few left rights and a few figure 8s. All smooth. I repeated the 8s in larger and smaller circles. Flawless. Not what I was expecting at all. I picked up the car, half shocked to count the number of steering steps. 5-6 to the left and right, evenly distributed. Amazing. Not what I had heard on the forums at all.

Home we ventured after realizing that it was not going to be retuned and my $45 dollars would never see my wallet again.

At home the car was put through many many races with various micros and origional zipzaps on my RCP track (huge Mini-z fan). The car never ceased to amaze. And as I write this mini-review for my fellow ZipZap owners and dreamers I would like to say that I was pleasantly suprised... but let's not be too hasty there is still something wrong with this Zip so let's go over the symptoms. The car, between 5-8 feet of distance from the controller seems to lose signal. I didn't believe that this was supposed to be the actual distance that the ZipZap SE was claiming to have. The Antannas aren't exactly much to look at and I believe that the problem may exist in a very easily repaired soldering job that is a little weak.

After all my doubts before the purchase I was very suprised at the performance but this little issue isn't so small if you're a 12 year old wondering why you have to chase your cordless RC around the kitchen.

Conclusion: I believe that the SE is a great improvement over the origional ZipZaps in its current stage of manufacturing. It's impressive inner mechanisms and smooth operation are nothing to spit on. Great fun for kids, teens, and us older crowd that still want to be kids.

Visual: 7.5/10 (painting issues, high body)
Performance: 9/10 (Range issue)
Lasting Appeal: 9/10 (with people to race)
Overall (not an average): 8.5/10

Thank you for reading and if you have any suggestions as to my range issue please let me know.
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Old 09-04-2004, 04:35 PM
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*standing ovation* I'm actually waiting to go to get one or 2, i have 37 bucks, so im not sure wheither one or two, thansk for the review, now i can expect the best.
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Old 09-04-2004, 04:40 PM
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*standing ovation* I'm actually waiting to go to get one or 2, i have 37 bucks, so im not sure wheither one or two, thansk for the review, now i can expect the best.
glad that you found it useful... isn't it nice to see that the SE's have finally started to get a little quality under the hood?
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Old 09-04-2004, 05:16 PM
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lol yea, my first SE< i had itfor a day and sold it for 10 bucks.
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Old 09-04-2004, 09:54 PM
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review....

the Se's in canada i have noticed to do the same things as well i find if you tweak the alignemt you will see the 7 steps . ususally they are there but for some reason the pcb/controller likes to throw in 5&6 and 6&7 in two real quick movements at once, making them hard to see and usually only happens in one direction being that there is a full 7 stepsin the other direction already. testing steps can be tricky has to be done real slow and in a smooth fluint motion from start to finish. i find on another note, obviuosly power. fresh batteries, well sorda really only dead ones will show lag in final steps. finally i agree with alot that was said radioshack in the states has absolutely no affiliation with radioshack cnada. none what so ever. try ordering part 274-1582.

twenty-se7en try the 7/7 mod / super easy, just re-route two wires.myself didnt notice a massive difference or one at all but something you can do. and then while your at FEt the thing bypass the resistors and dual celly it/quad whatever you wanna call it.
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Old 09-04-2004, 10:17 PM
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Nice review for the SE's in Canada. I'm glad you got a good one. As far as steering and control is concerned, the SE is definitely the best micro RC out there. Now if RS could just lower the profile of the electronics so they can get some decent looking exotic sports car bodies on there....and provide us with some wheel kits that look like real rims instead of the hub caps, I would probably never stop buying them.
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Old 09-05-2004, 05:08 AM
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Nice review twenty-seven, I'll prolly get an SE soon. I'm still a newb at this stuff so I have a few questions that've been lingering through my head as I was reading these posts.

What do you mean when you refer to steering "steps", is it to do with the alignment control of the front wheels located at the bottom of the chassis? If so, I've been having a minor problem with the alignment control on my ZZ. The white tab is completely pushed to towards the R but the car still drifts slightly to the left when I release the throttle.
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Old 09-06-2004, 10:29 PM
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Nice review twenty-seven, I'll prolly get an SE soon. I'm still a newb at this stuff so I have a few questions that've been lingering through my head as I was reading these posts.

What do you mean when you refer to steering "steps", is it to do with the alignment control of the front wheels located at the bottom of the chassis? If so, I've been having a minor problem with the alignment control on my ZZ. The white tab is completely pushed to towards the R but the car still drifts slightly to the left when I release the throttle.
When dealing with steering the ZZ and SE are completely different. The steering on most of the Micros are completely non proprotional and have steering issuses where the car will not go straight withouth some effort. This is NOT the case with the SE, the car is perfectly centered are you will not have to deal with that problem. Steps, as they are called, are to so with the proportional control. Basically the wheels can rest at aproximatly 7 positions to the left and right. Each of the positions are obviously at different intergers to the left or right. This makes the steering better so that you don't turn all the way to the left or right. If you do not understand that then think of it like this diagram.

*******^*******

the "^" is the center where the wheels rest automatically. When turned to the left, for example, if you turned the wheel half of its full turn to the left than you would be at the step that is bolded below.

*******^*******

I hope that this was of some assistance.

And also DailyDriver, I am seeing a total of 7 steps when observing very closely and am extremely satisfied with the performance and although I tend to mod everything (have a antanna mod already) I think that the steering is going to remain stock unless it deteriorated over time.
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Old 09-22-2004, 07:12 PM
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im ganna be getin a se soon and i wanted to kno how u can check the manufacturing date on the zz
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:45 PM
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bottums up....

on the bottom of the package you will see a little white stciker about 1/2cm in height and 3 cms long, that says either 03a04.04a04 or 05a04 i think not positive on the first one but the one you want is 05a04
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:52 PM
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after writing this...

i went to check a car that i had just oreder as i had forgot when i got it knowing that it would be at least and 05a04 like all the other ones i had ordered, but to my surprise its an 06A04 so my suggestion is get an 06a04
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:40 PM
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Nice little review there man...

I agree with all of it. For the price, it's just a damn good micro R/C.

Once you get it dialed in, it's the best handling micro around.....





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