Building a MAN 5T and 6x6 Pinzgauer

MarcusN · #1 09-30-2008, 08:10 AM

Hi there everyone,
I have been lurking around for a while (about a month or so) and no one really has been posting anything so i thought i would bring this forum back to life

Anyway i am going to be building a 1/87 rc truck. I have experience with radio control cars/trucks as i used to build Tamiya 1/10 kits and i was building a 6x6 trial truck last year but unfortunatly had to sell it due to work/school requirements but i have been interested in building something this small for a while now. I know these cost alot of money to make but i should be ok in buying the items i need.

Anyway lets get to the point, I have bought a 1/87 Man 5t and pinzgauer roco model as i wanted to do the man one first then a the pinzgauer to get some better exeperience in working with the small scale. Here are pics of the models

And i have also bought some trailers in case i need some more room in the pinzgauer or future models -

I am going to be buying some brass so i can make the chassis my self and i am going to order some gears from microantriebe so i can make the rear axles myself.

The Man 5t is going to be my first one and i am going to do this 2wd as i have contacted peter from tttt-parts.org and he said that currently the front drive axle is sold out and they are currently producing one that will come out end of 2008 start of 2009. ( i dont suppose any one has a spare front drive axle from tttt-parts)

Also i am going to be buying the JST mini receiver and i have found some small 4.5g servos to use but could someone tell what speed controller i should use as i have looked at alot of them on ttttparts and microantriebe but i dont know which one to use. i aim to get a 4mm motor if that helps.

Also could someone explain what this does "HLBT light and blinker with one channel" - http://www shop kkpmo com/product_in...e-channel.html
And what lights does it control and how would i wire them up?

Thanks for all your help, I will keep updating this thread with my progress and once all the parts have arrived.
Marcus

Thorsten · #2 10-02-2008, 04:00 PM

Hi Marcus,
I think the MAN 5to is a good choice for begining tttt. The Prinzgauer should be the second project. It is a little bit difficult to power the two rear axles.

You dont need a front drive axle. 2wd is more robust and the circle of turning is better. Even this is very important for offroad driving.
A 4mm Motor is to small. I suggest you the 7mm motor. The 4mm Motor is good for a winch oder a 1:160 scale van.
If you looking for a good driveline just look an www 1zu87modellbau de. There is a new ready to build in 1:90 gear availible.
There is also a very cheap speedcontroler "ER100" availible. Just better than a servo circuit .
But you can also use any other speedcontroler in this size. The difference is mostly a build in brake and reverse-driving-light port, or a programmable characteristic.

The HLBT is a controler to switch driving lights, direction lights and two flashers. It comes with a manual (also to download at www 1zu87modellbau de ) that shows you how to wire up.

I hope my english writing is not to bad, if there are some additional questions just feel free to ask.

best regard

Thorsten

www mikromodell de

tinyrc · #3 10-04-2008, 11:11 PM

Very cool Marcus, thanks for sharing!

MarcusN · #4 10-08-2008, 08:23 AM

Hi there,
No prob tinyrc, i just want to bring this amazing forum back to life!!

Thanks to Thorsten, i have ordered all the electronics (just need a transmitter) and the gears and front axle but i havent got the brass material yet i need from lemo-solar as they only accept bank transfer as a payment method.

Thanks and i will post some pics when everything arrives,
Marcus

kkpmo · #5 10-11-2008, 05:02 AM

Hello Marcus,

thanks for your order.
i hope you receive the next days all parts.

People how make TTTT look better here www mikroantriebe.de

Is the biggest shop for small gears and a good shop for electronic

regards

Oliver

MarcusN · #6 10-11-2008, 01:54 PM

Thanks for your help Oliver. i would recommended him to everyone, he has been very good.
Thanks again,
Marcus

MarcusN · #7 10-12-2008, 12:22 PM

I have received a few parts.
The trailers from ebay -

I am still waiting for the MAN 5T and pinzgauer to come.
I have also got my parts from tttt-parts.org, a front axle, some M1 screws, washers, bolts and some springs for the suspension.

I will let you know when i receive more items.
Thanks
Marcus

MarcusN · #8 10-16-2008, 10:48 AM

Well i have just received some more parts from mikroantriebe.de and they are of excellent quality and i would recommended him to all. Thanks Oliver!!
Here are the parts i got -

I also got some smd 0603 leds for the lighting kit to make the cars look even more realistic -

I am waiting for the vehicles to come and i am in the process of getting the materials i need.
Thanks and hope you enjoy,
Marcus

kalkurap · #9 10-26-2008, 03:01 PM

A real build thread after so long. I am enjoying this, please us keep updated on the build progress.

MarcusN · #10 11-03-2008, 06:19 AM

Thanks for your interest kalkurap.
I have just received the vehicles and some more electronic parts and i only need the materials now. I will post pics of the vehicles after.
Thanks
Marcus

MarcusN · #11 11-04-2008, 07:36 AM

Here are some pictures of the MAN 5T and pinzgauer.

As you can see i have bought some wheels and tyres aswell due to the tyres on the models being plastic.

I have started to cut the man trucks chassis to fit the rear gearbox casing and the servo in it aswell.

MarcusN · #12 11-04-2008, 07:36 AM

I have done this as this truck is just going to be 2wd so i thought about making it without a brass frame and keeping the original plastic chassis makes it look more realistic.
The servo fits in quite nicely in the front cab and i just had to cut a few bits away to make it fit on the chassis.

I am just waiting for the materials to fit the front axle and get the rear gearbox fixed together with the brass wheels.

This truck is going to have one of them lighting kits from microantrieb with front headlights, indicators, brake lights and a reversing light.
Thanks for your interest and if you have any questions or maybe you can help me with some suggestions then please tell me,
Marcus

jogs · #13 11-05-2008, 10:11 AM

Hi marcus,

great progress with your MAN so far!

I was building the same truck some time ago (click), and due to my experiences I would recommend a brass chassis. The center of gravity (right expression?) with the plastic chassis will be to high for good TTTT-characteristics. But as you have a fixed rear axle this might not be too serious. I have a swinging rear axle and in difficult terrain it dumps easily.

Which gear box have you got from mikroantriebe.de, 1:90? That's interesting for me because I want to start an TTTT MAN 630 with a fixed rear axle and I'am not yet sure about the transmission/transformation (?).

Jochen

MarcusN · #14 11-05-2008, 01:03 PM

Hi Jochen,
Thanks for the info, I have been looking at the http://78514.homepagemodules.de and translating a few bits. It is a very good website.
I will read your info about your MAN with great interest, thanks.
I am just going to see what it would be like with a fixed rear axle as this is my first truck so in the future i might make a brass chassis.

I will let you know how the gearbox works. This is the one i got - http://www.shop.kkpmo.com/product_in...out-motor.html

Just wondering if you have built any other TTTT's and do you have a course (parcourse) for the TTTT's as i am interested in making one.

When i receive the materials i will post some more updates.
Thanks again for your help Jochen,
Marcus

jogs · #15 11-06-2008, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusN

I have been looking at the http://78514.homepagemodules.de and translating a few bits. It is a very good website.
I will read your info about your MAN with great interest, thanks.

If you need some help with the translation let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusN

Just wondering if you have built any other TTTT's and do you have a course (parcourse) for the TTTT's as i am interested in making one.

Unfortunately I have not so much time for this hobby, so there is no other truck yet. But these days I'm starting with an MAN 630.

making a parcours is a good decision because it's a bit boring to drive on the desktop on the long run. You can see my parcours here: click

Let me know if you have any questions!

Jochen