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yeah carb0, I know you're right, I have been doing more research and found sites with a lot of these already done. and i'll just add datamonster to the list of people to have told me that for the last 4 years, and that totals, 473, so many people tell me that, but my way is never taken on forums and stuff, i think of them as tallies instead of roman numerals. oh, and thanks 1llusI0n!
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