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MarcusN 09-30-2008 08:10 AM

Building a MAN 5T and 6x6 Pinzgauer
 
Hi there everyone,
I have been lurking around for a while (about a month or so) and no one really has been posting anything so i thought i would bring this forum back to life :)
Anyway i am going to be building a 1/87 rc truck. I have experience with radio control cars/trucks as i used to build Tamiya 1/10 kits and i was building a 6x6 trial truck last year but unfortunatly had to sell it due to work/school requirements but i have been interested in building something this small for a while now. I know these cost alot of money to make but i should be ok in buying the items i need.

Anyway lets get to the point, I have bought a 1/87 Man 5t and pinzgauer roco model as i wanted to do the man one first then a the pinzgauer to get some better exeperience in working with the small scale. Here are pics of the models
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...ylor/Man5T.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e.../Pinzgauer.jpg
And i have also bought some trailers in case i need some more room in the pinzgauer or future models -
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/Trailer1.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/Trailer2.jpg

I am going to be buying some brass so i can make the chassis my self and i am going to order some gears from microantriebe so i can make the rear axles myself.

The Man 5t is going to be my first one and i am going to do this 2wd as i have contacted peter from tttt-parts.org and he said that currently the front drive axle is sold out and they are currently producing one that will come out end of 2008 start of 2009. ( i dont suppose any one has a spare front drive axle from tttt-parts)

Also i am going to be buying the JST mini receiver and i have found some small 4.5g servos to use but could someone tell what speed controller i should use as i have looked at alot of them on ttttparts and microantriebe but i dont know which one to use. i aim to get a 4mm motor if that helps.

Also could someone explain what this does "HLBT light and blinker with one channel" - http://www shop kkpmo com/product_in...e-channel.html
And what lights does it control and how would i wire them up?

Thanks for all your help, I will keep updating this thread with my progress and once all the parts have arrived.
Marcus

Thorsten 10-02-2008 04:00 PM

Hi Marcus,
I think the MAN 5to is a good choice for begining tttt. The Prinzgauer should be the second project. It is a little bit difficult to power the two rear axles.

You dont need a front drive axle. 2wd is more robust and the circle of turning is better. Even this is very important for offroad driving.
A 4mm Motor is to small. I suggest you the 7mm motor. The 4mm Motor is good for a winch oder a 1:160 scale van.
If you looking for a good driveline just look an www 1zu87modellbau de. There is a new ready to build in 1:90 gear availible.
There is also a very cheap speedcontroler "ER100" availible. Just better than a servo circuit .
But you can also use any other speedcontroler in this size. The difference is mostly a build in brake and reverse-driving-light port, or a programmable characteristic.

The HLBT is a controler to switch driving lights, direction lights and two flashers. It comes with a manual (also to download at www 1zu87modellbau de ) that shows you how to wire up.

I hope my english writing is not to bad, if there are some additional questions just feel free to ask.

best regard

Thorsten

www mikromodell de

tinyrc 10-04-2008 11:11 PM

Very cool Marcus, thanks for sharing! :)

MarcusN 10-08-2008 08:23 AM

Hi there,
No prob tinyrc, i just want to bring this amazing forum back to life!!

Thanks to Thorsten, i have ordered all the electronics (just need a transmitter) and the gears and front axle but i havent got the brass material yet i need from lemo-solar as they only accept bank transfer as a payment method.

Thanks and i will post some pics when everything arrives,
Marcus

kkpmo 10-11-2008 05:02 AM

Hello Marcus,

thanks for your order.
i hope you receive the next days all parts.

People how make TTTT look better here www mikroantriebe.de

Is the biggest shop for small gears and a good shop for electronic

regards

Oliver

MarcusN 10-11-2008 01:54 PM

Thanks for your help Oliver. i would recommended him to everyone, he has been very good.
Thanks again,
Marcus

MarcusN 10-12-2008 12:22 PM

I have received a few parts.
The trailers from ebay -
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1199.jpg
I am still waiting for the MAN 5T and pinzgauer to come.
I have also got my parts from tttt-parts.org, a front axle, some M1 screws, washers, bolts and some springs for the suspension.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1201.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1203.jpg

I will let you know when i receive more items.
Thanks
Marcus

MarcusN 10-16-2008 10:48 AM

Well i have just received some more parts from mikroantriebe.de and they are of excellent quality and i would recommended him to all. Thanks Oliver!!
Here are the parts i got -
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1212.jpg

I also got some smd 0603 leds for the lighting kit to make the cars look even more realistic -
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1214.jpg

I am waiting for the vehicles to come and i am in the process of getting the materials i need.
Thanks and hope you enjoy,
Marcus

kalkurap 10-26-2008 03:01 PM

A real build thread after so long. I am enjoying this, please us keep updated on the build progress.

MarcusN 11-03-2008 06:19 AM

Thanks for your interest kalkurap.
I have just received the vehicles and some more electronic parts and i only need the materials now. I will post pics of the vehicles after.
Thanks
Marcus

MarcusN 11-04-2008 07:36 AM

Here are some pictures of the MAN 5T and pinzgauer.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1389.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1397.jpg

As you can see i have bought some wheels and tyres aswell due to the tyres on the models being plastic.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1399.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1392.jpg

I have started to cut the man trucks chassis to fit the rear gearbox casing and the servo in it aswell.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1402.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1403.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1404.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1405.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1406.jpg

MarcusN 11-04-2008 07:36 AM

I have done this as this truck is just going to be 2wd so i thought about making it without a brass frame and keeping the original plastic chassis makes it look more realistic.
The servo fits in quite nicely in the front cab and i just had to cut a few bits away to make it fit on the chassis.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1407.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1408.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1411.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1415.jpg
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1416.jpg

I am just waiting for the materials to fit the front axle and get the rear gearbox fixed together with the brass wheels.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...h_DSCN1418.jpg

This truck is going to have one of them lighting kits from microantrieb with front headlights, indicators, brake lights and a reversing light.
Thanks for your interest and if you have any questions or maybe you can help me with some suggestions then please tell me,
Marcus

jogs 11-05-2008 10:11 AM

Hi marcus,

great progress with your MAN so far!

I was building the same truck some time ago (click), and due to my experiences I would recommend a brass chassis. The center of gravity (right expression?) with the plastic chassis will be to high for good TTTT-characteristics. But as you have a fixed rear axle this might not be too serious. I have a swinging rear axle and in difficult terrain it dumps easily.

Which gear box have you got from mikroantriebe.de, 1:90? That's interesting for me because I want to start an TTTT MAN 630 with a fixed rear axle and I'am not yet sure about the transmission/transformation (?).

Jochen

MarcusN 11-05-2008 01:03 PM

Hi Jochen,
Thanks for the info, I have been looking at the http://78514.homepagemodules.de and translating a few bits. It is a very good website.
I will read your info about your MAN with great interest, thanks.
I am just going to see what it would be like with a fixed rear axle as this is my first truck so in the future i might make a brass chassis.

I will let you know how the gearbox works. This is the one i got - http://www.shop.kkpmo.com/product_in...out-motor.html

Just wondering if you have built any other TTTT's and do you have a course (parcourse) for the TTTT's as i am interested in making one.

When i receive the materials i will post some more updates.
Thanks again for your help Jochen,
Marcus

jogs 11-06-2008 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusN (Post 204126)
I have been looking at the http://78514.homepagemodules.de and translating a few bits. It is a very good website.
I will read your info about your MAN with great interest, thanks.

If you need some help with the translation let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusN (Post 204126)
Just wondering if you have built any other TTTT's and do you have a course (parcourse) for the TTTT's as i am interested in making one.

Unfortunately I have not so much time for this hobby, so there is no other truck yet. But these days I'm starting with an MAN 630.

making a parcours is a good decision because it's a bit boring to drive on the desktop on the long run. You can see my parcours here: click

Let me know if you have any questions!

Jochen


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