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casper975 12-13-2002 10:07 PM

MINI-Z knock-off on ebay
 
Whats the deal with these mini-z knock-off's on ebay are they any good there only like $15 or $20 are they proportianel steering and throttle or are they more like the palm runner's

airbob20 12-14-2002 02:34 AM

I was wondering the same thing..
 
but i was wondering more along the lines of are the parts interchangeable with the real thing?

Doug

casper975 12-14-2002 04:19 PM

From the looks of them the rims and tires will fit and maybe the bodys

tinyrc 12-14-2002 09:38 PM

No - avoid these at all costs! Check http://mini-zracer.com for more opinions on these. :)

casper975 12-14-2002 10:50 PM

Ok will do

Flux49Mhz 02-25-2003 08:46 PM

I can see how tiny rc doesnt want you to buy those. they are affiliated w/ miniz.com. Anyway those ones on e-bay dont have proportional steering or throttle, but all of the stuff works w/ miniz parts and options. Horrid suspesion, nofront shocks at all.
that causes problems.

Flux49Mhz 02-25-2003 08:48 PM

I really must update my signature

2fast4u 03-04-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tinyrc
No - avoid these at all costs! Check http://mini-zracer.com for more opinions on these. :)

actually i justgot one for $24 they are hot u can use all of the upgrades for koyosho i got one made by haipao is really cool you
can get two three and four speed upgrades so dont talk if u dont know:mad:

casper975 03-04-2003 09:46 PM

Do they have proportional steering and throttle

Wedginator 03-05-2003 09:32 AM

Quote:

actually i justgot one for $24 they are hot u can use all of the upgrades for koyosho i got one made by haipao is really cool you can get two three and four speed upgrades so dont talk if u dont know

you were ripped off.... u were scammed.... buy or test drive a REAL Mini-Z and you'll see many differences. HeiPao cars are not proportional...

screw the speed upgrade, I doubt those cheap clones can go as fast as the real thing...

NT-APEX 03-08-2003 06:59 AM

U can get Palm Runner for $12.60.. so u got rip off!

2fast4u 03-09-2003 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wedginator
you were ripped off.... u were scammed.... buy or test drive a REAL Mini-Z and you'll see many differences. HeiPao cars are not proportional...

screw the speed upgrade, I doubt those cheap clones can go as fast as the real thing...

first off NO i didnt get ripped im gettin a vid cam ill show u how fast it really is

frizzen 03-10-2003 01:05 AM

So you guys are saying that Palm Runner and HeiPao clones are NOT proportional steering/throttle cars? Are they upgradable to propo?

If not I'll just stick to my BitCharG/MS stuff for a while longer. :(

2fast4u 03-10-2003 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frizzen
So you guys are saying that Palm Runner and HeiPao clones are NOT proportional steering/throttle cars? Are they upgradable to propo?

If not I'll just stick to my BitCharG/MS stuff for a while longer. :(

i no that mini isint proportional but i dont know about the palm runner.
there are only two things wrong with mine it isnt proportional and no front suspension but my friend told me that all u have to do to get it to hve afront suspension is to get the top peice of the front that holds the wheels in place replaced with one from koyosho ill do that as soon as i buy one its like 7$

2fast4u 03-10-2003 06:39 PM

hey ppl i just finished a new proj i took the wheels of of a car model and put them on my mini z on the tires it says goodyear nice touch!

frizzen 03-21-2003 04:23 AM

I just got one of the Palm-Runners off ebay in the mail today.

Thunder-Mars. Made my HeiPao. Non-propo. No front syspension. The diff is notchy (probably a sprue they didn't clean up). The tires are harder to make hook than you'd believe. The remote is uncomfortable. The steering wheel has about half an inch of travel, with 3/8" being dead-zone, the throttle has more dead zone going forward than it does reverse. The foam wheel cover on the transmitter is loose, so it needs glued. The battery sticker in the transmitter is incorrect if you follow the battery pic (it has + and - drawn backwards) And it's in a bizarre freq. (45 mhz) so I can't tell if it could be propo if the transmiter was better.

But, for the price it's pretty cool. It's a little slow for my tastes. But with the amount of wheel-hop it gets.... And on hardwood and linoleum, you can drift it pretty well. Turning radius is a little large for my tastes as well.

I'd say if you absolutely need to get one of these low-end clones, go for the ones with mini-z style tx.

SteveK 03-21-2003 10:19 AM

Aren't the actual Palm-Runners made by Kyosho as a cheaper Mini-Z alternative? I remember them from about a year ago, and there is a Kyosho info page for them. Made to fit the Z bodies and wheels/tires and stuff, but be less expensive.

frizzen 03-22-2003 05:08 AM

So, you're saying I actually bought a clone of the low-end version Kyosho sells to people too cheap to buy a real Mini-Z?


Hahahahaha, yeah that sounds about right for my normal luck... :)

Oh well, the price was good, and now I have a nice test-bed to hack and mangle. :D

Wedginator 04-08-2003 11:17 AM

NO IT'S NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!!! IT'S A CLONE FOR GOD SAKES!!!!! SOMEONE'S TRYING TO RIP U OFF... U THINK THAT'S WORTH IT!!!!!

rucrazy4rc 04-13-2003 01:46 PM

they suck
 
those mini z clone suck i should know cause i have one. it does not have prop steering the knobs on the controller does not work it is there for cosmetic purpose but there is a good point to those clone i can do stuff to it that i would never do to my mini z , all the hop ups fit ,i tried them , the power sucks so i installed ,temporarly a turbo to it an extra battery compartment ,radio shack , slot car drag wheels in the rear ,foam deep dish , hit the throttle smack it at high speed in to my wall l, got damn that car moved, purchased another one trying to come up with another idea to destroy it .:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

akura2 04-13-2003 11:13 PM

Palm runner cars are basically the same as mini-z cars...except they run on two AA batteries instead of four...and the controller isn't as good... but the car IS proportional (throttle and steering)

"You'll be amazed at the authentic display-quality exterior detail of these palm-sized 5" long (scale: 1/28) Palm Runner. Their true-scale bodies feature such fine touches as headlights, rear wings and decals for accurate markings. Inside, high-tech engineering produces exceptionally realistic performance -- with forward and reverse two-wheel drive, fully proportional steering, sophisticated suspension action, real car-like acceleration, braking, and more.

Each Palm Runner comes factory-built and complete with everything you'll need for operation (except alkaline batteries). There's nothing to glue or paint. The electronics and radio equipment -- including a 2-channel transmitter, high-frequency speed control and special miniature servo -- is all so well-designed that it's simple to use and maintain. Display them...drive them...set up a course using the cones and speed bumps and race against another Palm Runner. In an area as compact as 3' x 6' (floor or tabletop), you can enjoy a thrilling contest with up to 2 models competing at once (ID 2 & ID 4 bandwidths).

Ships complete with pre-built chassis, they share the same pre-painted bodies as the Mini-Z Racer. A 2-channel wheel-type transmitter is also included. Each sturdy car features genuine front & rear suspension. When not in use, they look great just sitting atop a PC. If your other car is really a Porsches or Viper, now's your chance to boast about it.

Requires: 2 x "AA" alkaline batteries for the car, 1 x 9V battery for the radio transmitter (neither included). Length: Up to 12.5cm / Width: 6.5cm / Height: 3.8cm / Weight (chassis): 170g / Weight (transmitter): 160g."

Draconious 05-04-2003 03:25 AM

clones are junk pure and simple...

The only reason they exist is to truck ppl into thinking its a mini-z only recently are they now ADMITING its not a mini-z on the auctions, in the beggining the box was very poor copy of the Mini-Z box.. very obvious they wre out to screw ppl.. it cost them about 1$ to make and box the entire thing... they are only now changing their ways, cuz no one is buying the pieces of crap.

they are NOT mini-Z.. in any way shape or form... even the bodies are TRASH.

The hei poa is 10x worse then the takaros, the takaros is 10x worse then the palm runner, and the palm runner is only 1/10th of the car the Mini-Z is...

Do not give these clone makers your money... they are breaking laws making these products.

jamiekulhanek 05-05-2003 09:36 AM

The palm runner DOES NOT HAVE PROPORTIONAL CONTROL. it is a cheap version of the mini z with none of the features.

RaceRfreak 06-23-2003 04:02 PM

Clones
 
Well i getting a clone off ebay for the low price of 15 dollars shipped. so i dont care its cheap and i hope worth it.

Wedginator 06-24-2003 12:44 AM

it's not worth it.... maybe $5.00 is worth it, but not $15....

Yugo DSC Maxxer 08-11-2003 02:54 PM

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You people arent listening!!!
Heipaos suck!
Heipao=Heipaocrap!
Here is a picture of the controller's main board.....(Top)
Yes, I admit it, I got one once when I wasn't Mini-Z smartly.
I'm sorry........:(
vvvv

SkyLiNEz 4-eva! 08-13-2003 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flux49Mhz
I really must update my signature
What does this have to do with what we r talking about?

Yugo DSC Maxxer 08-16-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyLiNEz 4-eva!
What does this have to do with what we r talking about?
I'm wonderin' the same thing!:confused:

pacificwarriors 11-11-2003 04:04 PM

He is tryng to say that that stinks all clones do all the time every time for everything they stink its that simple, he is trying to say that it is horrible and it stinks, its a bad quality is what that shows. I fell for it to I am new to this and I got ripped and i am quite mad I hate it when people do this to other people.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

kevinsupra90 11-12-2003 08:01 PM

I saw those things. They are gonna' make me puke! Heipao?! What kind of name is that? Doesn't matter, those things aren't good. How could anyone defend them? So they look like Mini-Zs. So what? Some kids tell me I look like Steven Tyler. To tell the truth, I have no clue what he looks like, but even if I do, I don't sing like him! Those things clearly aren't good, if they were, they wouldn't copy Kyosho.:mad:

vw_nut 11-13-2003 05:54 PM

there are a lot of cheap ripoffs out there but the bottom line here is that if you want quality (you don't want to pay though your teeth) you have to do your homework

check out auldeys new mini-z ... it has full proprtional steering and throttle and looks a lot like kyosho's mini-z but has a larger body and use AA batteries ... retails for about $40 on carmoworld.com ... not bad for a fully proportional car (proportional control not size) ... and auldey quality and durability is quite good (better than the cheap knockoffs but below kyosho mini-z's) ... haven't got one yet but i've heard good things

toyotaland369 11-16-2003 07:17 PM

i've got a couple of them as gifts and they suck! there slow and they spin to much. they dont have nearly the same amount of features as the real mini-z 's . I just got a real racer and im expecting it Friday... cant wait!;)

pacificwarriors 11-17-2003 10:58 AM

Your not kidding I found alot of them on ebay an finally found a real mini-z for 9.99, I am getting it This is nota heopao I made sure

richh 11-17-2003 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by pacificwarriors
Your not kidding I found alot of them on ebay an finally found a real mini-z for 9.99, I am getting it This is nota heopao I made sure
not to rain on your parade, but i doubt you cold get a true kyosho mini-z for 9.99. it may not be a heipao, but that doesn't make it a kyosho. there are other clones as well.

post the ebay link and i'm sure we'll be able to tell you one way or the other.

maybe you can get out of the deal.

toyotaland369 11-17-2003 02:53 PM

yeah richh is right there is many brands of the fake ones. A true kyosho one will be about 100-150 uhjnless its used you can find them sometimes for 65-90

Yugo DSC Maxxer 11-17-2003 08:05 PM

Hey toyotaland369,
What generation Racer did you get?
MR-02 or MR-01?
PS: You can NEVER find a TRUE Kyosho Mini-Z for $9.99.
NEVER.

toyotaland369 11-17-2003 08:09 PM

i got a mr-01 for now... ill eventually have a mr-02.. and for the 9.99 thing its just an autoscale

kevinsupra90 11-20-2003 04:28 PM

I hate those stupid kids in school!!!!:mad:
I'm using my Z as a robot for Science Olympiads, and some kids asked how much they were. I said $150 and they didn't believe me. They must have run into some Heipao crap, because they said it was only $20! What a bunch of IDIOTS!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Yugo DSC Maxxer 11-20-2003 11:56 PM

What are you using it for?

kevinsupra90 11-22-2003 10:33 AM

I'm using it for a robot that is supposed to move around billiard balls on a four foot table, WITH NO RAILS.


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