Drift Guide
 

due to a large amount of people requesting techniques on drifting i decided to put together a guied for drifting setups and techniques i hope this will end posts about drifting and will help people out.

Now, the first thing to take into consideration is your drifting surface. tile might be a surface you want to stay away from due to the grout in the middle your car will be jumping around. linoleum and hardwood floors are a good drifting platform. it will help if your surface is thouroghly cleaned because debris such as dust will give your tires no grip on the surface and end up in uncontrollable donuts.

Next, tires are an important factor. taped tires or foam tires are taking away from the purpose of drifting you want to go around a turn as fast as possible and REGAIN GOOD TRACTION after doing a drift so the thing is to get good hard slick tires that still have grip.

Breaking defies the purpose of a drift, not only do drifts look good but they are supposed to be done without loosing speed so around the entire turn although sometimes at half throttle the brakes will not be applied and the momentum of the car will help keep the speed.

Suspension is actually not such an important part of a drift simply becaus of the different techniques and styles that people have. sometimes people say that a hard suspension in back and a soft in front is a good setup for drifting. I personally recommend first drifting with stock springs and then adjusting how you think is neccessary.

Gearing and motors are ofcoursethe most important part the gearing usually depends on the motor you can have a motor with a lot of torgue with the blue gearing and it might still spin the tires. i have heard that the spinbrush mod with stronger magnets and a ball bearing can on a drift motor with drift gearing is a very good setup but, once again it is all about the style and technique it all depends on when you want to spin the tires and when you want to come out of the turn.

AWD ive heard that awd makes drifting easier i am not so sure of this since the front wheels will be pulling out of the turn just causing a small skid and not a full whip like we want.

THE DRIFT:
1: come into the turn at full speed
2: let go of the throttle about half way and let the momentum carry you into the turn
3: turn into the turn at half throttle and gun the throttle to spin the tires(this is where your motor and gearing comes in)
4: swing around the turn and at the desired angle let go f the throttle half way again alowing the tires to regain grip
5: slowly accelerate out of the turn

NOTES: counter steering MIGHT turn you out of the turn so i suggest not doing it(you will also need catlike reflexes) hitting the brakes will result in a speed loss which we definately do not want. keep your movement quick yet not agressive (you always want to be in full control) spreading water may damage your electronics. lastly... EXPERIMENT try different setups, surfaces, and techniques and that will help you develop your own style that will be unique.


i hope i helped and if possible maybe this cud be a sticky

Counter Steering isnt very hard....when you see your car start to loose it just steer the other way

when i drift i go full throttle trough out the whole drift, and drift wheels work better than hard slicks on concret

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thats what im saying if u read thw whole thing im just giving some tips but later u start to develop your own style and going full throttle through it means ur car just spins and that means u dont have grip which is bad. and when you counter steer ur car will probably turn out if ur wheels suddenly regain grip.

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i am trying to help people who are new since there are a lot of threads about drifting i never said anyone HAD to do something im just trying to mage suggestions which have worked for me and others btw full throttle in the whole turn is not a drift thats a slide which is different

Re: Drift Guide
 

actually....the quickest way through a corner is a straight line....not sideways...and drifting is not racing....its show... ;)


just like pro-wrestling is not fighting....its acting.....

actually
 

a corner isnt a straight line so check ur information yes it is show but the point is NOT to loose speed because the tires keep on spinning. so stop the flaming i put this together to help people not so that people can criticize my work. i did research and i actually know what i am talking about.

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"Breaking defies the purpose of a drift, not only do drifts look good but they are supposed to be done without loosing speed so around the entire turn although sometimes at half throttle the brakes will not be applied and the momentum of the car will help keep the speed"

read the whole thing and infact if u ever watched a drift competition u would know that if you lose your momentum you lose point

p.s i will make a video later with my xmod and my mini z

Yes Drifting is more tecnique than speed. You don't see F1 cars going sideways. that said I enjoy watching drifting. The easiest way to drift with a x-mod is with the AWD and stock tires on the new laminate floors as they have a low traction surface. I can do nice figure eights with mine.

cool
 

cool, once again i want to stress what i am trying to do i do not want to force anybody to do anything i am just giving hints and suggestions to poeple who want to start drifting. and yes drifting is more torque than speed.

Re: actually
 

You got one part right...
You don't wanna loose too much speed in drift, though drift isn't ment for speed.

Life 'aint "INISHULL DEE OMG DRFTRACE2U?!?//!!1!11".

yea
 

thats what im saying a drift isnt meant for a race but losing speed
makes you lose points in a drift ur not supposed to lose speed. ur not supposed to be going that fast but speed helps you, and then ur supposed to keep the momentum.

drift guide
 

BUMP please guys tell me wat u think

Yeah, your guide is pretty cool, but you can lock your rear diff gear (the big white gear on the axle) with some cyanocrylate (sp?) glue, just take the 3 little gears out, and the middle spacer, and glue the 2 big gears to the diff case, this will make your back end lose traction easy on tile and slick concrete etc. I can fish tail on carpet with it. I only recommend doing this if you have a spare diff, and pretty good driving skills. Such as throttle control, because your car will be much harder to get going without spinning out. With practice its fun. I can pull a drift all the way around my kitchen table with full batts. Oh! and I forgot, drifting is about speed in some aspects. A good drift driver can make it around a tight corner much faster than someone who doesnt drift. If the drift is controlled right, they can keep a higher momentum through the corner, and have more speed at the wheels to accelerate into the straight.

nice job on the tutorial. cool.

locking your diff , do you have AWD , i doubt it otherwise it would be easy , i have stock rwd and i want to lockmy diff , ive been trying to find a TUT on this for a while now and i really want to do it , if anyone knows where theres a TUT for this please let me know

Yeah, i have AWD... fully locked in the back.. limited slip in the front... at least untill yesterday... I popped the bond between plastic and CA glue. Can't find anything stronger. Well just follow the text like i have there. Thats the easiest way. Or use the plate LSD but that requires a ball bearing diff. My car still drifts well at high speed with awd, IC3s, and limited slip all around. You just have to get about 1/2 speed going in the turn, full throttle at about 1/3 of the way, and pull out of it at the end, which is easier with awd and the tierod mod. I can't do any 10 foot drifts anymore, but oh well. :(

Doh i forgot, if you do have the rear red gear that came with the awd kit, don't try glueing it. I had a hard time with mine and it never worked out. Someone needs to machine a fully aluminum drive train for these things!

ok its just , i havent a spare and im not too confident , as if i eff it up i knackered , so you open up the big white gear , then do you take out the inside parts ??? , and then glue , or glue the inside parts ???
sorry to hasle ya but im just looking foward to trying it

Well you can order another diff at atomicmods if you screw it up. But take the stock diff apart. You will see a big blue gear and 3 little blue gears. Take the 3 blue gears out and the spacer that holds them in. Then you will see another big blue gear. Glue both big gears to the case of the diff. make sure your driveshafts fit in before it dries. After its done drying put the gear back together and put your car together again. You will have all power going to the rear wheels and you can drift with ease, but its easier to strip the glue out than you think. So be careful with the throttle and only drift on low grip surfaces like on linoleum (sp?) and stuff. If I take off at half throttle on carpet and hit full when it picks up, I can do nice fishtails and can actually get the car going sideways on carpet.

try watching the drift bible... it has 6 drift technigues and guess what... HE BRAKES

Uhh, yeah, braking is involved in a couple drift techniques, but just enough to lose traction, and that isn't the ONLY way to drift...

another technique involves weight transfer of the car using the brakes. when you step on the brakes, weight is transfered to the front of the car which reduces rear traction.

if you get the awd upgrade it gives you an extra diff, but i'm not sure if it's different than the stock one or not. if it isn't you could lock your stock one and keep the two awd ones unlocked just in case you wanted to swap back to an open diff setup.

has anyone tried putting a small amount of silly putty on the diff gears? that could be one way to lock them up temporarily and still be capable of going back to stock if you decide you didn't like it.

BTW- drifting relative to racing is not intended for speed on a track, it's just a way to keep the rpm's up on an engine through a turn which is helpful in rally racing. not on most paved surfaces where maintaining traction would be faster. on a paved track grip is faster than drift.

Re: actually
 

In general, the fastest line through a corner is the one that allows the greatest radius or the straightest path....believe me...i have plenty of experience in this. ;)


Heres a nice link to some cornering info.... ...and here

anytime you wanna put this theory to the test...come see me @ Moroso motorsports park here in florida and I'll put laps on you while you drift your way to the truth....

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+1, that's why drift competitions are not all about speed and why you don't see nascar, formula 1, cart, indy, etc. cars drifting.

why would someone come to this thread only to knock drifting? if you don't like it obviously don't reply. like nascar, it's not for everyone. but don't say it's not racing just because you don't think so. japan started the drift craze and use it while racing in events, wrc drift thru turns, it's being done....

someone would be offended if i go to nascar car threads and mock the left hand turns for example so don't come here knocking this subject please.

personally, i love drifting, but the reason for the controversy is misinterpretation. 2fast4u said something that sounded like the fastest way around a turn is to drift, which upset some of the community here because that's not true. now i realize that he meant that when your drifting, your going to want to go as fast as possible while maintaining the drift, and not that the fastest way to go through a turn is to drift.

i want to drift but i dont know how lol

okay i have a washroom floor (obviously) and its tiled but it doesnt have DEEP ridges just small ones and i have an infiniti g35 with a 5th cell thats my whole setup how do i drift on this kind of floor without the awd kit and is there a way to lock the rear diff no one answered the last post about this

btw REALLY NEWBIE QUESTION but wut is the rear dif. lol im new to xmods and i see this alot im guessing its the white gear but its just a hunch

there's one excuse to drift... on low-traction surfaces when you need more steering, or you need to get the car through a tight spot quickly. rally racing would be the only place you find these conditions.

the other, theoretical condition is that drifting allows the CG of your car to take a wider radius than if you were to enter the corner using grip (because the rear will often follow a tighter line, thus the CG has to turn tighter). so surprisingly enough you can really cut into a corner with a drift. but (assuming a RWD car) to accelerate efficiently out of the corner, you have to regain traction before you reach the apex of the turn. and since the drift already set up your angle of corner exit, you need very little front grip when exiting the drift.

when you apply this, you can do as follows: set the car up for a touch of off-power oversteer, and as much on-power rear traction as you can get. entering the corner you can coast in and turn, or brake and turn. but you have to start getting on the throttle early to avoid losing the slide (you don't have much inertia to work with). keep the throttle low enough to not gain any angle. when you get to the apex, hopefully you've already got traction; if not, lift off enough to get it back, and accelerate out like a normal grip corner.

that IMO is an efficient use of the drift; under power, there's only one way to get the most out of the tires, and that's under full grip. but when decelerating, you have some options, and the drift is one of them. the scandinavian flick was invented for this purpose.

2fast4u- when you wrote the guide, had you actually tried drifting? without ridiculous skill and good equipment, RWD RC drifting is quite hard.

okay im running a 6 cell setup and im gunna get awd for it now 2 questions.

1) would awd slow down my xmod ALOT or do i HAVE to install lithium ions

2) can i drift with this setup eventhough my car is this heavy

p.s. im getting a rubber tire set in the mail also.

i tried this but it doesnt work wenever i m supposed to drift i spin out. it is probubly because i have no traction. it isall stock. its an xmods g35 evo series

Drifting a RWD Xmod with rubber tires is so improbable... not impossible, but infinitely hard to pull off.

Grab an AWD kit.

for the guy who said drifting could only be done one way your wrong

i can name 5 kinds right off the top of my head

ugh