breaking the tires loose
 

hey y'all. here is what im running for drifting.

awd
red front/blue rear
hard slicks all around
stage 2 yellow
5-cell

i think thats it. i see to still get too much grip. can someone help me out on how to break the tires loose without lube of some sort? i use the feint or power-over style.

Well, if you can't lube or otherwise alter the tire surface, then I'd suggest using a different approach to the turn or changing the rear axle setup.

Did you use the LSD from the AWD kit? i just left it out and it seemed to want to drift more, oh and what kind of floor are you drifting on? i drift on a Raquet ball court, so i think your best bet is to use the masking tape method otherwise you get way to much grip on the rear wheels, hey just go get a 180 motor and i think you won't have a problem.

*Edit* slide your batts all the way forward too, that's gives a good amount of help with wieght transfer.

I would sudjest trying hard tred front & rear. Try the Stage 2 Purple. I did that, and when I hit the gas on a smooth surface, the tires spin before the car moves forward. On carpet, if you time it right, you can do a compleate rollover and land on the tires. (Remove your mirrors or you might break them off)

first, im running on polished walnut. second, i moved the batteries to the front. third, i hear that hard slicks give the least grip. this is what i'm using. i have red springs in front, blue in back. i think i just may have to use masking tape.

sorry for getting off topic, but I was wondering about the :bdrop: thing...is that for the x-mod...if so how do you go about doing it...thanks for the help

Man you cant drift the thing????

How strong is the drive train in these cars, would it take 10 times the stock power????

i just put some ZZ tires on a set of extra rims and i put them on just the rear for now but they give a little less than the hard slicks i was using. those might help

softs in the front

Go with the drift motor, it's called that for a reason. :p

Also, just experiment with springs, thats probably the best way to go at it.

EDIT: I just saw that you're running alkalines. :rolleyes: Rayovac IC3's are your best bet.

Am I missing something?

No one has said anything about the AWD setup. Wouldn't a RWD setup be more conducive to drifting?

Not that you can't drift on AWD, I just thought it was easier on RWD.

wha????
 

I had NO trouble drifting with EVERYTHING being stock other than 6-cells and stage-2 yellow. I'd suggest losing the AWD.

Re: wha????
 

BAM thats what i'm talking about.

in rc's it doesn't matter what drivetrain you run, because the thing is only so big, using the awd is just more forgiving so you don't have to use extreme steering to get the thing to drift. and as for the springs yellow up front rather thatn the red is a much better setup, i tried them all and it seemed to wark the best, and as for tape, just masking tape them, it's not cheating it's improving a design.

Re: wha????
 

I find it near impossible to drift with RWD, at least on a concrete floor. I'm not sure what you consider "good" drifting (maybe upload a video of you drifting?), but when I try to drift with RWD I end up spinning out every time. I've tryed every style and I've yet to be able to do anything I'm satisfied with.

I also haven't seen anyone else able to drift with RWD. So I'd like to see what Schr-eng and theMonster consider drifting.

just tap the breaks, while you are in the turn and the rear wheeles will break lose, but i dont think that it would work on a awd car, but it might, i am not into drifting, just nitro rc!

oh there's no doubt that you can drift with RWD as i can do it with no preblems, it just takes different styles to do it, and you have to be aware of what you car is doing at the same time. all i'm saying is that AWD is easier to hold a drift so most people prefer it.

drifting
 

Most people don't even know what real drifting is........ I'm running in a parking garage underground and I'll be going like 1/2 to 3/4 speed when I start to take a turn around a 4ft wide support-post and then I gun it full throttle while cutting the wheel 1/2-3/4 of the way I want to turn and it'll float/skid sideways around the support column. That's drifting.....most people confuse it with powersliding which is basicly doing a 180/jacknife turn. I'm also very fond of doing reversies which are reverse powerslide but starting from a dead-stop. I watched too much Dukes of Hazzard, Starskie and Hutch and Smokey and the Bandit when I was little.....

Maybe my problem is that I'm running on a smooth cocrete floor, I don't have anywhere else to run it at the moment. :mad:

2NR i think you should feather the throttle in the turns and countersteer earlier right when you lose traction. i drive on a concrete floor. most of the reason why you end up doing a full 180 is because of late countersteer, not enough countersteer, or too much throttle. try setting ur suspension and tires for understeer. i love my skyline and it is rwd and i plan on keeping it that way.:)

my set up is pretty much almost stock except for a clutch type lsd and superglued stock tires. oh and hard springs and batteries shifted to the front. the lsd keeps the car from diffing out and the rear tires from gaining too much traction.

AWD is the best drift set up i've used to date.

I've tried countersteering early, late and every where in between. If I try to feather the throttle, I lose too much speed, and it basicaly becomes a powerslide. I think I just need a different surface, or AWD (if it ever becomes available :mad: ). The floor I'm running on is slippery as it is, but when I run it for a while, I get dust on the tires and the car gets really loose which gives me terrible oversteer.

Re: drifting
 

i thought that a powerslide was sliding the rear end out just enough to give you a little oversteer to get around a sharp corner. am i wrong?

add another AAA

The stock Stage 1 white is best for a 4 cell car. I can break the tires' grip fairly easily with 6 cells and the stage 2 blue. BTW, from what I've read, AWD is easier to drift b/c it allows you to pull out of the drift, and also allows you to aim the car easier.