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TypeZer0 11-10-2003 09:21 PM

tried to paint supra...disaster struck
 
well, i had it painted nice and black and i tried clearcoating it with spray can stuff. i tried testor's and duplicolor spray can clear coats. both kept wrinkling the paint so i had to keep sanding it a little and repainting it. well, my friend suggested i heat it at a low temp to speed up the curing process. guess what? CHEAP RADIOSHACK PLASTIC!!!. at about 100 degrees fahrenheit for 2 minutes, this is what happened:

http://home.comcast.net/~aznkid83/Melted_XMod_Small.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~aznkid83/Me...od_2_Small.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~aznkid83/Me...od_3_Small.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~aznkid83/Me...od_4_Small.JPG

RedRSX 11-10-2003 09:28 PM

:D :D :D LOLOLOL Thats hilarious...that thing lloks like it was in a high speed wreck...you should definitley display that...sorry for laughting but it looks funny...RIP Black Supra:(

dEmOnRaCeR 11-10-2003 09:41 PM

yah tell ur friends it wuz so fast it crashed and caught on fire lolololol that is so funny :D

kingcobra 11-10-2003 09:50 PM

?????????????
 
what kind of plastic do you know of that will withstand 100 deg for even half a minute? pure genius

TypeZer0 11-10-2003 09:53 PM

actually, some people who paints models heat it up at low temp to speed up the curing process like i tried. the one difference is they had high quality plastics and radioshack had cheap plastics

kingcobra 11-10-2003 09:57 PM

ya....
 
I have done it...but you use a gas oven and you only barely turn it on AND you leave the door open all the way to do it...any plastic will melt with that kind of heat

Flashgore 11-10-2003 10:10 PM

kingcobra, you really have a problem, get off everyones back and stop putting everything down that someone does, if thats all you can do, then just leave.

kingcobra 11-10-2003 10:11 PM

?
 
what? do you have the right to tell someone to leave? are you a moderator? I submit that you are not! so spare me your power trip...

Flashgore 11-10-2003 10:15 PM

I never said you had to leave, but to do everyone a favor, leave if your going to keep putting people down like that, so everythings not perfect. GET OFF IT.

kingcobra 11-10-2003 10:20 PM

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I DID NOT put anyone down all I did was provide the proper directions for "heating" a painted body...

NissanSERspecV 11-10-2003 10:35 PM

look at the bright side, the paint looks good. LMAO!!!

kingcobra 11-10-2003 10:37 PM

ya...
 
nothing like a baked enamel finish...lol

itsme 11-10-2003 11:06 PM

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Dude, try to use the same brand paint and finisher unless it's a known fact that they mix good.

TypeZer0 11-10-2003 11:18 PM

actually, the first clearcoat was the same brand as the paint i used. well, i bought a third clearcoat but this time it's not a spray, comes in teh same bottles as the black paint i used. too bad i coudlnt' try it out

itsme 11-10-2003 11:38 PM

one mo thing
 
My dad is painting a car and he doesn't keep the temperature above 80 degrees in the garage...so I'm not sure why you'd put it at 100 when it's plastic. Patience my friend, patience...

Bad Company 11-10-2003 11:43 PM

Yes, I can't stress enough...patience. If you try to rush the drying time, you might not let the paint settle and even out. If it dries too quickly, it will dry in the state it is put on at first, kinda clumpy. As it's drying, it lays itself on (for lack of better term). Just my 2 cents.

Oh, and by the way.....enough of all this bashing on other's rides!

Viper966 11-10-2003 11:52 PM

hey brett... i think somebody has ur RSX beat....

i think for ****s and giggles u should try and return it to radioshak.....

i would love 2 see the look on their face....



but look @ the bright side, now u HAVE to mod a mini Z body to fit it on there

kasper01001 11-11-2003 12:06 AM

if u look at it in an angle, it doesn't look that bad..........LMAO.. i'm sorry u should display it to remember what to do next

martin3103 11-11-2003 05:25 AM

Dude that sux
 
When i saw the pic. WOW. What can i say. I think the clear coat idea is cool and all but it just doesn't seem worth it now.
Thanx for shareing though. You saved me the trubble of the same mistake. (The clear coat not the heat thing.) You may already know this but some of the mini-z bodys will fit the xmods and they got some cool ones. Most of them are around $20.00. That beats the $50.00 + for another x-mod.



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Nissan Skyline
Custom Paint (Green)
Bearing Upgrade
Super Charged (5th cell)
Light Kit (cool look)
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pacificwarriors 11-11-2003 09:56 AM

Sorry about your car, but you could always put it back on ( if it still fits) and say you had the worst wreck no one could beat you.

viperkilla 11-11-2003 03:14 PM

Wow that must REALLY REALLY suck. Do you plan to buy another XMOD or are you just going to drive it without a body?

crazydave 11-11-2003 03:53 PM

Well, I have noticed that the paint that comes on these cars tends to repel the paint I use. Nothing a proper sanding, and light solvent wouldn't fix, but I wouldn't blame the plastic.

Your first mistake was mixing Testors and Duplicolor. Testors is Enamel, Duplicolor is laquer. What happened to you, is exactly what happens when you mix enamel and laquer.

Secondly, heat will not speed up the curing process. A warm envirement is beneficial, but straight up hot=bad. Too much heat will melt the paint, make it soft, and it'll never properly cure and get hard the way it should. If you want to speed up the cureing process, put a fan on it. Air circulation is the best way to go.

And lastly, I can't believe you didn't realize plastic would melt, and furthermore it's even more amazing that you can displace the blame from yourself, and blame RS.

TypeZer0 11-11-2003 04:25 PM

the first clearcoat i tried was also enamel and it actually ripped up the paint as it wrinkled, far worse that wut the lacquer did. btw, my black wheels have the same paint and it's coated with the duplicolor clearcoat and it looks great, didn't wrinkle or anything. the first clearcoat i tried worked great on teh front bumper and hood.

and about the mixing thing, well, you live you learn and i learned my lesson

other than my friend suggesting some heat, i seen people on the web talk about warming up their models (non-rc) after they applied their enamel paint.

i knew plastic melts, but i didn't know the plastic that RS used had such a low melting point. i swear it was at most 100 degrees in that oven cuz first, i only had the thing set to below the lowest temperature mark, and second it was in there for 2 minutes at most.

yeah i blame myself for this mistake but i also blame RS for using cheaper plastic. i've seen some fairly cheap plastic get subjected to a direct flame from a lighter and it didn't melt, though the surface did get slightly charred obviously. i think if they didn't do the interchangeable body kits thing, they probably could've put that money into higher quality plastic. but knowing RS, they'd make it this weak anyway so that if you break the body, or in my case, melt the body, your only choice is to get a new kit

itsme 11-11-2003 04:53 PM

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You never mentioned what type of paint the color was?

Viper966 11-11-2003 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TypeZer0
the first clearcoat i tried was also enamel and it actually ripped up the paint as it wrinkled, far worse that wut the lacquer did. btw, my black wheels have the same paint and it's coated with the duplicolor clearcoat and it looks great, didn't wrinkle or anything. the first clearcoat i tried worked great on teh front bumper and hood.

and about the mixing thing, well, you live you learn and i learned my lesson

other than my friend suggesting some heat, i seen people on the web talk about warming up their models (non-rc) after they applied their enamel paint.

i knew plastic melts, but i didn't know the plastic that RS used had such a low melting point. i swear it was at most 100 degrees in that oven cuz first, i only had the thing set to below the lowest temperature mark, and second it was in there for 2 minutes at most.

yeah i blame myself for this mistake but i also blame RS for using cheaper plastic. i've seen some fairly cheap plastic get subjected to a direct flame from a lighter and it didn't melt, though the surface did get slightly charred obviously. i think if they didn't do the interchangeable body kits thing, they probably could've put that money into higher quality plastic. but knowing RS, they'd make it this weak anyway so that if you break the body, or in my case, melt the body, your only choice is to get a new kit

thats true some plastics are stronger and more heat resistant than the RS bodies

but why would you expect them to design it like that?

Neurokinetik's RSX was run over by a car, and the thing still runs fine...... hell he even managed to salvage the body


so why would u want it any stronger than that

stronger=heavier= slower

go try the same thing with a mini Z bodie... i guarantee it melts the same way

colin4371 11-11-2003 05:36 PM

wow, what does this mean for people with Xmods that live in flordia? during summer it gets over 100 a bunch of times down there...

and the moral of the story is, if you live in flordia, take up knitting, or some other hobby

str8 del ghetto 11-11-2003 07:03 PM

i live in florida and i have way to protect my cars.....it's called keeping them indoors, i dunno if you've heard of it? lol

Rotary Freak 11-11-2003 09:03 PM

Whoops. Don't worry, I think we've all had a "my bad.." moment with our X-Mods. At least you learned not to do that next time. I used to dry some of my Bit paint jobs with a hairdryer with usually bad results, because I wanted to go challenge the downhill (big hill I used to live on) RIGHT THEN and not later..so my first Bit (MS Sport clear S-2000, thats why I bothered painting it..) looked like crap. You definately just gotta wait it out with the paint, but hey, maybe you created your own custom there accidentally, the "I thought I could make that corner!" Supra.

luislugo 11-12-2003 11:58 PM

the best way
 
to speed up the cure procress of the paint, use one of those lights used in the construction sites, pass the light from one side to the other until the paint is dry.

kingcobra 11-13-2003 12:03 AM

ya...
 
the first coat of paint I put on mine melted the body....I had to remove all the paint and sand and polish the plastic to get it smooth so I could try again...but I did it...finally

Revlis 11-13-2003 04:25 AM

Ouch, looks like you got Burned.. sorry thats gotta suck.

4G63T 11-13-2003 07:33 AM

o man!:eek:
that thing had to smell so bad when it was burning:p
sorry to hear that

TypeZer0 11-13-2003 09:19 AM

actually, it didn't burn at all. it simply melted

neurokinetik 11-13-2003 10:15 AM

You still didn't answer one question...

What paint did you use for the color?

Also, how long did you wait between spraying the color and spraying the clear? The can (Testors enamel) says to recoat within 3 hours, or else wait 48 hours.

I have my new RSX body painted, and was planning to spray the clear tomorrow, but I did notice that the clear is a lacquer and the color is an enamel, even though they are both Testors, and were in the same paint section together. I may use the frankenstein RSX to test it.


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