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nomad 07-08-2003 08:16 PM

bit plane
 
I saw somewhere in the internet a plane made from bit char-g parts.
I figured out that the steering (left/Right) is controlled by the steering mechanism at the rudder, but how is up/down controlled?

I found the plane at:
http://www.palmislife.com/cgi-bin/ut...1&bpg=5&age=30

micro kid 07-09-2003 12:39 AM

the climb rate is most likely adjusted by non RC flaps that make lift when the plane moves forward

crweedon 07-09-2003 01:17 AM

maybe the climb rate is fixed, but then varies on speed. basically what i'm saying is that the vertical raiser fin is fixed and you have to kind of pulse the throttle, where as if you give it constant gas it continues to climb till out of range

TheEvo 07-09-2003 06:02 AM

How do you then charge it?

nomad 07-09-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEvo
How do you then charge it?
I believe there are charge terminals somewhere on the plane


Quote:

Originally posted by crweedon
maybe the climb rate is fixed, but then varies on speed. basically what i'm saying is that the vertical raiser fin is fixed and you have to kind of pulse the throttle, where as if you give it constant gas it continues to climb till out of range
I was thinking that, but, Is there some way of adding a switch to the controller and use the forward/back for up/down controll?
anyone know how to add an extra switch?

crweedon 07-09-2003 03:19 PM

i don't think you can add another switch.... the remotes they use run on preprogrammed channels, if you had a lot of background knowledge with basic stamps then you might just be able to hack the chip and reprogram it but other than that your best bet would probably be a pulse throttle or a steady throttle and then wire the forward/backward to a kind of steering like set-up for the veritcal raiser.

nomad 07-09-2003 04:25 PM

I think pulsing the throttle sounds better.

anyway, I'm off to buy one of those cheap wooden planes powered by a rubber band, a soldering iron, and some wire.
hopefully when I'm done, I can learn to fly without hitting any flying animals

nomad 07-10-2003 01:11 PM

even better!
I can tear apart 2 cars and use onecontroller for up/down left/right and the other for mottor control and I was thinking of having a little magnetic clamp to hold little noise makers and have it drop them when I press a button :)

eman1 07-10-2003 05:11 PM

Thats awesome

crweedon 07-11-2003 01:37 AM

don't forget however that you have to be concerned with the overall weight of the plane, those motor do not produce a whole lot of torque as it is and now you want to add extra weight to the existing battery and control unit already on board.. seems to me like an unneccesary amount of weight and a good way to never make it off the ground...wow.. i'm sorry if that sounded mean.. i didn't mean for it to sound that way, anyway good luck let me know how it goes

Daisycutter 07-11-2003 08:25 AM

Check these out:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...threadid=84771

scroll down till you see RC Car Conversions


http://members.aol.com/rchelicam/microszr/microszr.htm

The BEST place yet for bit tech info.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ight=MOTH+plan

contains plans for a bit plane, the only thing you need besides the car is a lithium polymer cell. Read the whole forum, it has lots of good FAQs.

These sites are the BEST for bit plane info, check em all out:)

Daisycutter 07-11-2003 08:27 AM

the second link shows how to boost range up to 200'

nomad 07-11-2003 11:35 PM

I've seen those sites before.
I was thinking about sharing battery for both pcp boards.
the steering shouldn't take that much power, does it?
if it takes too much then I will switch to the lithium polymer battery.
and, I have a spare 2.8 motor, would that be enough?

Daisycutter 07-12-2003 07:56 AM

Most of the guys on the forums use the e-charger plane motor, or the n20hv motors, available at most hobby stores(i think).

As for the 2.8, i don't really know. it would be best to use a high torque motor, like something you would use in a Wildcharg.

nomad 07-12-2003 11:43 AM

does it really need that much power?
all it is is one of those cheap balsa wood rubber band powered planes.
all I'm gonna do is attach a motor, pcp(s), and some tiny steering mechanism.

Daisycutter 07-16-2003 09:11 AM

nomad, if you are gonna go with a ff glider conversion, you should use the n20, right now i'm busy with college, but when i have the time i'm gonna build me a MOTH :cool:

nomad 07-17-2003 07:34 PM

n20?

JesterDotcom 07-18-2003 04:54 PM

http://www.gem.hi-ho.ne.jp/no-koshob...x/projectx.htm
thats the sight the planes from if you translate it it says that he never got it to fly

nomad 07-19-2003 08:13 PM

when I tried to translate it, it didn't work right.
if he never got to fly it, it could still work.
I saw some videos of someone's plane flying that looks like the one from that site.

vinnyg 08-07-2003 07:03 AM

hey guys,
i have made a free flying bit plane using 2 150mah nimh cells, a motor from a motor works car and zipzap blue gearing. on a stick plane that i made, kindof like a rubberband plane. flies level and will even climb. the next step it to make it rc with throtle control and rudder control. just hope it will fly with the extra weight of the rx.
vin

vinnyg 08-07-2003 07:06 AM

sorry
 
sorry guys i didnt know this post was so old, i thought i was on the first page when i looked at it. ill try not to do it again

eman1 08-07-2003 09:02 AM

Thats not a problem at all that you brought it back to the top. A lot of people probably didnt see this before

Daisycutter 08-07-2003 11:21 PM

Vinny,
the RX weighs 1.8 grams, hope that helps :)

vinnyg 08-08-2003 09:40 AM

thanks
 
thanks daisy cutter, i thought it weight more than that. i just have to get some light wire cus the wire that i have is too heavy. do you know where i can get some small light flexible wire?
im also trying to do a harbor freight free flight lightnening conversion with an e charger motor and 3 nimh's. i am using this rx from a clone. it is the simplest and lightest rx i have ever seen. when i measured the voltage drop from the battery to motor outputs, it was only .013 volts!
thanks again

hazzamaya 08-08-2003 11:09 AM

DUDE! I wish they could make a char-g micro helicopter!THAT WOULD BE !SWEET! :D :D :D :cool: :cool: :cool:

vinnyg 08-08-2003 09:58 PM

Actually they already have done it



heres the pic

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...&postid=609379

and here is the link to the long discussion about them

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=1

nomad 08-14-2003 07:54 AM

does anyone have a clue where I can get one of those balsa rubber band planes?
I really wanna get started making my plane but I have no clue where to get one of those planes.
ever notice how you can find things without a problem until you need them?


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