this would be so scary!!!!!!!!!!
 

If somebody installed a 4.0 motor (which can be bought at rcmod.com) and 1:1 ratio gears, then the car would go at a speed of an ACTUAL 70 MPH!!!!! and that's NOT the scale speed.......ouch!!!!

Here's how I found out the speed:

Motor rpm/gear ratio= wheel rpm
wheel rpm x wheel circumference=distance per minute(cm)
distance per min in cm / 2.54 = inches per min
inches per min/12= feet per min
feet per min x 60 = feet per hour
feet per hour / 5,280= actual miles per hour
actual mph x 64 ( I did this for zipzaps) scale mph

sweet, no???

uuummm...no
 

no...not sweet!

no
and no
i can see your new here so ill take it easy on u. Even logic would tell you that is not possible. i know you think it is but its not. no torque and it would take forever to get the wheels spinning. you would have to fabricate a whole new gearing system. HOW THE H%^$ CAN YOU HAVE A 1:1 GEAR RATIO? its immpossible.(unless you had like 10to10) but still NO just think about what you just said and i think you will realize you should have said that BS. Fast cars are cool but but dont think of stupid things.

If that was takin' it easy, I don't wanna see you lash out. LOL

You could do a 1:1 gear ratio if you did a belt drive and changed the axle gear to whatever pully or gear you put on the motor in place of the pinion gear. 10:10 is the same as 1:1. It's not the number of teeth, it's a ratio. I'm sure you already know that, but I just didn't understand the 10:10 thing you posted.

Anyway, yeah I hear the 4.0 motor sux and has no torque. It probably wouldn't even run with a decent clone motor because there's no way to push it to 4.0. No torque.

Hey umm... new guy, the fastest Zip I have ever heard of is 11mph. I have not seen it because he won't post video's. I do believe him though, cause mine goes 10 mph with the blue gears. You NEED torque to get that top speed. My 10mph car is running a clone 3.0. You see, it's not the numbers, it's the way you set up the power source (cells) and gearing.

ya
what i meant by 10:10 is you have 10 teeth on the pinion (you would have to make it) and 10 teeth on the axle gear (you would have to make that too.) its not a 10 to 10 ratio i just meant 10 teeth to 10 teeth
but anyways a pulley system would be pretty hard also. Think about it...you would have to some how get a anti-slip belt that would drive the motor to the axle and BY THE WAY i noticed the axle is like 2 times the diameter of the motor armature pin.

the 4.0 is 40 000 rpm undewr no load that doesnt mean it will be 40 000 rpm when it is running in the car ! Therefore there is no way it woulkd be 70 km or miles or w/e

Wouldnt that be 4,000 rpm

Re: uuummm...no
 

Well, since YOU'RE obviously new as well, I'll go easy on you too. So just consider this a warning.

The TinyRC Forums is a friendly place and that means we DON'T allow people to put others down or belittle them.

im not sure but isnt a 1.0 10 000 rpm so a 4.0 would be 40 000 im not 100% on this so someone correct me if im wrong

4.0 is 40,000 rpm. but even if u get the car goign and heading for its top speed, it'll struggle to reach that 40,000 rpm cuz in the real world, the weight of the car, rotating mass of the wheels, wind resistance and friction will keep it from reaching the 40,000 rpm redline. to even get near the redline, u'll probably want to dual or tri cell it to get enough power to push it to that speed but that means more weight and less likelyhood to reach the 40,000 rpm so i'm guessing that if u can get it going with a 1 to 1 gear set, u'll probably max out around 50 to 60 mph on a flat level surface.....after a long wait to have it accelerate to that speed. it's kinda like trying to start a real car on 5th or 6th gear, it's very hard to get teh car moving

opps I got my numbers mixed up, I even have the new motor chart. :D

look
 

hey namuna
look im sorry if it looked like i was "belittleing" or putting down the newbie but i though i would describe to him that his idea would fail in all aspects.

Actually, FastandFurious is kinda right....cars on the highway can go up to 60 mph, but my rc car wouldn't even last 2 seconds if it went that fast, so don't really take it out on FastandFurious...

"Fast cars are cool but but dont think of stupid things."

I guess I'm behind the times, someone explain to me how that's NOT a belittling remark?

OK
 

:mad:
look namuna lets just focus on the topic of this thread

SO JUST:bdrop: THE SUBJECT!!!!!

[Namuna Edit] Notice how I'm able to jump into your post and add this comment. That should tell you I'm a Moderator here (if you didn't already know).

Also notice how your title just changed to Banned. My job here on the forums is to keep things civil, it's a tedious job at times and if you think I'm going to take lip service from you for doing it...Well, you'd be wrong.

Take a week vacation to think about why it's a BAD IDEA to get nasty with a Moderator.

Thank you, [removed]

hi namuna.
i surf a lot around on this website but i dont think fastandfurious desrves to be banned. Afterall i think he might have just meant it in another way instead of that. Dont be so harsh on fastand furious...give him one more chance.:)

i love these little cars!!!!

WATCH IT!!!
 

AND BY THE WAY coop253

dont be to quick to just call people jerks! That is belittling and very insulting. I just happen to know fastandfurious and i think he is a very upstanding citizen. He called my on the phone and said he even e-mailed charliebrown and appologized!!! DOnt call fastandfurious a jerk.

Coop253,
How much better than what he was doing is it to call someone names? I've removed your comment and ask that you hold off on doing that. EVERYONE is welcome to their say on these boards...EXCEPT if they get PERSONAL and attack others.

dohcricer,
Did you really think I wasn't going to notice you have the same IP as Fastandfurious? You don't really want me to ban every account you spend the time and effort creating do you? Wait out the week (starting today, 4/23, since you went around the ban) and your Fastandfurious account will be reinstated...IF you heed the rules.

Now, back to the original intent of this thread...A 1:1 would only be possible (as I understand it) if you put the wheels DIRECTLY on the motor. Someone else on the Forum already posted about eliminating the idler gear so that's 1 step closer to 1:1 as well.

IM SOOOO SORRY!!!

Namuna im going to be honest with you.

I am sorry (really, truthfully and not lying) that i made dohcriceraccount and this account. I made this account so i could appologize to you. I didnt mean any harm in the first place and i promise to obey the thread rules from now on. I enjoy the hobby of mini-rc-car racing and i enjoy the community in which i have made some friends and shared ideas and thoughts that help eachother's hobbies (cars) out. I will do the time (1 week) in order for me to reestablish my account, but i made this account to just say "im sorry and i'm glad your here to keep these forums friendly, safe and overall great."
Thanx
(fastandfurious)

To nigeradriver, dohcrier, and fastandfurious,

This is obviously charliebrown....But look, FastandFurious has sent me an apoplogy letter, which I don't think is necessary as he has already said that he is sorry. Guys, let's just forget this whole thing ever happened. Namuna, you're a moderator, right? Well, do us all a favor and delete this thread so we can learn from this and get on with our favorite hobby, Micro Rc's. I think FastandFurious is innocent.

Oh, and by the way...who's the newbie NOW???? :D :D :D

i dont think he deserves to be banned, after reading the same questions and hearing things that arent anywhere near possible it is easy to lash and think you are being 'civilized.' ive done this a few times, not sure if it was ont his forum though. while he should have been more understanding or something like that(lol), i can relate to how he feels.

now back to the topic:
even if your car could get to 60/70mph, it would run out of batteries first:D

also, on larger 1:10 scale electric cars, they NEED to be geared down as well. no electric motor will support a 1:1 gear ratio without burning up or frying something. unless the wheels are small as crap, then maybe.

if you REALLY want to make your zip go 70mph, then attach some bottle rockets or CO2 cartridges and hit it with a hammer:D

Sorry, I just stumbled onto this thread and am glad Namuna didn't delete it. I read through the entire string and support what Namuna decided. Very fair in my estimation. Y'see, it's darn hard to get banned from this forum. Unlike "other" forums that will ban you for sneezing, lock threads, and chastise members over trivial things, TinyRC gives a lot of slack to it's members. This is a good thing. People make mistakes. Some of us are very young and prone to jump the gun. A draconian like grip only alienates people. TinyRC, and Namuna in particular, run a great forum with a more humanistic approach. But, there is one area not to be tread on, even on these boards. Respect of those in charge! You simply don't tug on Superman's cape. You don't spit into the wind. You don't pull the mask off the ole lone ranger, and you don't mess around with Namuna! I mean, a moderator tells ya to cool it. You tell him to kiss off, and he reminds you why you need to listen. Common sense here folks.

Well, Azimov, I agree with you on that, but as you see, F&F has done his time and is forgiven. But you still don't mess around with moderators! They are a high rank!!! And they are here to see to it that people can enjoy this hobby without being bullied!!! So Namuna took action, and FastandFurious did something very insulting to Namuna's intelligence!!! Now that I think about it, maybe f&f didn't get a bad enough punishment, but it's over with now, and I'll bet that some people noticed that FastandFurious hasn't said anything for a long time. And it was only a while ago that I discovered that he was THREE DAYS YOUNGER THAN ME!!!!!!!! Wow, but let's put this behind us.

Nah, the punishment fit the crime (if you can call it that, lol). I mean, he got kinda suspended, not really banned. I would hope that FastandFurious will continue to post and contribute ideas to the forum. He seems like a good chap and that's what's really important. We all make mistakes. It's what you do with the knowledge once you realize it that is the stuff of legend.

.........That's great oratory, Azimov!!!!!

Well, you could layman's tricell mod the car with the 4.0 motor in it......same weight, three times the juice

Oh and by the way, I guess FastandFurious forgot one thing: He was right, and this is how: I doubt that you could run at a speed of 80 mph to chase that tiny thing, yet alone control it from 100 ft away :p

edit: does anyone know if FastandFurious is still on this site? If so, under what new i.d.? If he's been posting, then it sure wasn't under that sn, he only has 56 posts or so, NOI

I could see a 1.0 or a 1.6 motor doing the 1:1 gear ratio, they have the most torque. If the board had the mosfet mod it would probably work. It would be almost the same as if the motor was connected directly to the rear wheels.

I tried direct drive on a Canned heat once, put a 6v mabuchi 280 motor where the gearbox was and it worked on just the 3v from the car! It looked real wierd, it had only one rear wheel, just a little bigger around than the motor itself. (if the motor had a double ended shaft it would have been better)

The acceleration was almost as fast as it was with the gears, but it would only go on smooth floors.(the motor casing was only a few milimeters off the ground)

It seems like you CAN do it, but you need the torquiest motor, and a board that will pass high current stock , or with the mosfet mod.

did it have one drive wheel or one rear wheel? i have seen go karts with one wheel drive, it just turns better in way than the other, might make a good nascar.

It had just one rear wheel stuck directly on the motor shaft, taped it to the chassis and let it go :D

Namua Shut the hect up

<Scratches head>
Where did that come from? Oh well, bye-bye x2master.

all x2master has to do is to create a new screenname

And all Namuna has to do is ban you again. What is your problem?

So finally...there is a solution for a 1:1 gear ratio. lol

Yup, you sure can. And for all the effort you put in to do so, I just click on your account and press a single 'Ban' button.

Until we meet again. bye bye.

How ironic. Somebody comes and says an insult, they get banned, they come back and try to fool the moderators, and they get banned again....TWICE.

Some people just don't understand.......wow.:rolleyes:

I have a tri cell BIT that does 19mph using a 4.2 motor, bit racer gears and a dual (parrallel) modsfet modded booster pcb.
It doesnt like turning much but boy its fast.
Fet mods are what I do, check the site.
:) uA

WOW! That bets bdebde's mod, so congrats, you are the new speed record holder! :D Do you have any instructions on how to do a FET mod on a ZipZap? I mean, just take two wires and where should I solder them?