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RacinSkillZ101 11-22-2004 07:44 PM

errrrrr no lol i need half shafts, they come with the AWD kit, they are black and can pivot with the use of a constant velocity joint, there only in the front, but for me im runnin independant rear suspension and have the half shafts in the rear.. so i need alloy versions quick

viperdout 11-22-2004 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by RacinSkillZ101
errrrrr no lol i need half shafts, they come with the AWD kit, they are black and can pivot with the use of a constant velocity joint, there only in the front, but for me im runnin independant rear suspension and have the half shafts in the rear.. so i need alloy versions quick
www.cjshobbies.net has them for the back, but no one makes them for the front, so you're outta luck there.

RacinSkillZ101 11-22-2004 10:09 PM

dam cause i broke one already just turnin the wheels by hand, F***, you guys think they'l make alloy versions?

viperdout 11-22-2004 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by RacinSkillZ101
dam cause i broke one already just turnin the wheels by hand, F***, you guys think they'l make alloy versions?
I doubt it, because it'd be really hard to assemble.

rafucho 11-28-2004 07:01 PM

AWD front axle shft
 
My AWD front axle shafts break a lot and I had to buy 3 AWD kits already. So it would be really cool to make some for both left and right for about $12.

baleisen 11-29-2004 08:27 PM

I got a lot of alloy parts from Atomicmods. The needed to be redrilled because they were anodised after drilling. They didn't fit together at all. THe steering nuckles fit well with the tierod. They dont work with the A arms. After drilling, the entire rear end works fine. I had to devide the front into 2 cars. One got the frames and 'A' arms, the other got the steering nuckles and tie bar.

seth98es 12-08-2004 04:26 PM

So how do we place an order? I want to order some alloy parts!

Horshu 12-23-2004 11:19 AM

I've got all the GPM silver parts available for my car (see mine in the gallery). The only part they don't seem to make are the front dogbone shaft for AWD, as those are hinged. Also, the GPM parts seem to be made for FWD cars, as the axle holder has a ring that is too thick, keeping the metal tie rod from sliding under. Additionally, the tie rod teeth that grab the steering horn rub against the diff. This could be because I have a custom chassis, but I had to dremel down the axle holder and all my tie rods. Runs like a champ now, although the weight goes up about 20% when you add in all the GPM parts.
One thing that sucks, though, is that I've lost two of the mounting screws and slightly damaged my front susp. arm. The front arm is sold out everywhere, and I can't find thosemounting screws anywhere (they are *slightly* smaller than 2-56), so I'm probably going to have to order a gear tower just for the screws.

xxxmod 12-24-2004 01:07 AM

i want the a arms in silver and the knuckls and the dogbone shafts in red. off the topic radio shack should make a better servo and a different controller and digital perpostion stearing i think i spelt that right it should come in a kit so we don't have to buy another car they put better stearing in the zip zaps thats what this car needs and they should make a new back pod with the motor side ways like the mini z so we could take them because every time i do something to my xmod my friend does something to his mini z so its alost battle

Murcielago659 12-24-2004 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
i want the a arms in silver and the knuckls and the dogbone shafts in red. off the topic radio shack should make a better servo and a different controller and digital perpostion stearing i think i spelt that right it should come in a kit so we don't have to buy another car they put better stearing in the zip zaps thats what this car needs and they should make a new back pod with the motor side ways like the mini z so we could take them because every time i do something to my xmod my friend does something to his mini z so its alost battle
The steering is fine, once you do the resistor mod. And what difference would it make if the motor was on the rear axle or on the driveshaft?

xxxmod 12-24-2004 01:42 AM

the reason the xmod will never beat the mini z is the xmod has three gears when the mini z has 2 i have my xmod hooked the only thing i have to do is put my tight turnz in and the mini z kicks my a!@ every time i put lithum in my friend does to his z and guss what he wins just like the big rc those street cars with the pinon and the gear on the rim will on any other car

Murcielago659 12-24-2004 02:02 AM

The number of gears has nothing to do with it. My dragster mustang regularly beats one of my friend's mini-z dragsters. It's all in how you set it up.

xxxmod 12-24-2004 02:14 AM

sorry guy its not logic if you took both cars and did the same thing to both of them the mini z will beat it i wish this wasn't so cause i like how the xmod looks and how its set up but radio shack could have done a better job plus the xmod is heavier the only way i do take the miniz is on a tight track cause i have 4 wheel drive

viperdout 12-24-2004 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
sorry guy its not logic if you took both cars and did the same thing to both of them the mini z will beat it i wish this wasn't so cause i like how the xmod looks and how its set up but radio shack could have done a better job plus the xmod is heavier the only way i do take the miniz is on a tight track cause i have 4 wheel drive
It has nothing to do with gears, and you are totally wrong. The reason a Z is faster is a combination of it being lighter and possibly having more efficent electronics, but mainly severe lightness.

xxxmod 12-24-2004 10:43 AM

i don't know but i bet if you put a z back on a xmod it will be faster how can u say it's wrong more gears more power the motor needs so if you put the same motors in both cars the z is going to be more eficent and faster plus im sorry it's more like 4 gears xmod has so the xmod is turning 2 extra gears when the mini z is pinon to gear thats it

viperdout 12-24-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
i don't know but i bet if you put a z back on a xmod it will be faster how can u say it's wrong more gears more power the motor needs so if you put the same motors in both cars the z is going to be more eficent and faster plus im sorry it's more like 4 gears xmod has so the xmod is turning 2 extra gears when the mini z is pinon to gear thats it
More gears mean jack. When the ratio changes, it means something. If I put a gear big enough to make a 1:1 ratio on a Z, and did the same thing so that the wheel to motor on an xmod (bevel to diff is 9:20), the Z would still win. The number of gears does not matter, but the gear ratio does.

xxxmod 12-24-2004 02:33 PM

all you guys are going to make me waste money and buy a mini z and put the azz on a xmod just to show how it will stay with the mini z with the same motor come on guys 2 gears then 4 do the math this car will never beat the mini z all my hooks in my car my friend turns around puts the same motor and he takes me not by alot but he still wins even if i took out the 4wd i still loose xmod has bulky gears the miniz has a pinon directly on a gear hooked up to the rim. so every time that motor spins the the xmod its turning 3 gears not 1

xxxmod 12-24-2004 02:39 PM

sorry to say you are all wrong its how the world is please prove me wrong you can't i don't want to be a bad guy here but it can't be done the mini z is always going to have a jump on it like buying a vette fast is hell never beat a lambo even if you turbo it rebuilt the motor the guy with the lambo does the same guss what the vette looses radio shack will have to make the car over to be better then mini z and i hope they do cause i hate those little z

viperdout 12-24-2004 05:59 PM

Gear ratios make a difference, not number of gears for the last time. Where are you in Jersey, so I can beat it into you.

xxxmod 12-25-2004 12:36 AM

ha ha that would never happen.how about this i'll get my friends mini z the thing it has is stacked fets and a turbo motor you get a xmod with the same stufff and the mini z will take it and the mini z is like 5 years old it's not even the new version cause my x mod is hooked and the mini z still takes me so like i said im right and your wrong merry x mas

Murcielago659 12-25-2004 01:19 AM

Man, if you want a mini-z, go get a damn mini-z and leave us alone. You're borderline trolling here.

viperdout 12-25-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
ha ha that would never happen.how about this i'll get my friends mini z the thing it has is stacked fets and a turbo motor you get a xmod with the same stufff and the mini z will take it and the mini z is like 5 years old it's not even the new version cause my x mod is hooked and the mini z still takes me so like i said im right and your wrong merry x mas
For the last time, it's gear ratios, not number of gears. I also also see that you're too much of a wuss to say where you're from in Jersey. Would your friend like to be schooled by a brushless xmod?

xxxmod 12-25-2004 06:20 PM

viperdout im from paterson for 32 years just moved to prospect park. This the last thing im going to say first if you looked what i said i don't want a mini z 2 if i put a brushles in a z what do u think will happen the thing im saying is the xmod has to many gears. This is my world and in my world the xmod will always be slower it sucks to say cause i like them thats why i have one. will never beat a mini z

viperdout 12-26-2004 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
viperdout im from paterson for 32 years just moved to prospect park.......... in my world the xmod will always be slower it sucks to say cause i like them thats why i have one. will never beat a mini z
Well, if I have a pinion with 28 teeth that touches another 28 tooth (all same diameter) which then touches the last gear on an axle with the same diameter and 28 teeth, I have a 1:1 ratio. If I now have a 14 tooth pinion that directly connects directly to the 28 tooth pinion on the axle, I have a 2:1 ratio, which would provide more acceleration, but not nearly as much speed.

I don't think you understand how hard it is to drop in a brushless motor, let alone what it is! Hell, I've got one and I'm still foggy on it. The Z has next to no room to fit a brushless motor, let alone a spot to place li-pos. If a Z had the same amount of room, I would've used it, but it doesn't. It has no room for everything. Brickmodder did a very smart thing, and had someone design a circuit that reads the xmod's signals, then sends it to the Mamba ESC. I'm doing it differently. I've shoved all-new electronics into this thing, and just have to machine the gear and I'm done (I'm going to do that today or tomorrow). Do a search on xmodworld and xmodrc for the 2nd Brushless xmod, and on xmodrc for the Black Mamba (Brick's car).

I'm in Oradell, about 2 miles away from Paramus.

xxxmod 12-26-2004 12:21 PM

what ever

viperdout 12-26-2004 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
what ever
You misspell a word, that's fine, everyone makes mistakes.

xxxmod 12-26-2004 01:29 PM

this went to far

viperdout 12-26-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
this went to far
I ............merely goaded you to race me if you want to prove your point. That is not illegal by any sense (unless your xmod can get a ticket for breaking the speed limit). I love Zs. I'm looking into buying an MR02 right now. If I get it, I'll be dropping in 2 lithiums, a Nelly 1.3, and an S04. The Mini-Z is a great vehicle, but right now, my xmod can beat every one of them in the US. It is no offense to any Z person, as I have dumped a good chunk of change into this thing. Again, a Z has a has a higher-speed ratio, and it has nothing to do with number of gears. If I mounted my bevel on my motor, I'd actually go slower because my current gear ratio is 1.09:1 pinion to bevel.

Zero-Man 01-03-2005 08:09 PM

xxxmod + viperdout

Your posts have been edited and I am graciously asking you 2 to keep it civil without name calling and finger pointing.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Zero-man, new mod for the XMod forums.

viperdout 01-03-2005 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Zero-Man
xxxmod + viperdout

Your posts have been edited and I am graciously asking you 2 to keep it civil without name calling and finger pointing.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Zero-man, new mod for the XMod forums.

I would like it if you would at least spell correctly in my posts.

Zero-Man 01-03-2005 09:11 PM

Sorry, I guess we all make mistakes...;)

viperdout 01-03-2005 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Zero-Man
Sorry, I guess we all make mistakes...;)
Yep.

baleisen 01-04-2005 12:36 PM

I wish that somebody would do alloy parts that fit together with whatever other alloy parts are on the market.

Horshu 01-04-2005 01:04 PM

baleisen: Here's a kicker -> The GPM front suspension arm doesn't even fit with the GPM front deck! The front deck's forward-most screw holes extend the deck out just like with the stock one, but the alloy suspension arms are too thick to clear them. I had to use a dremel to shave the screw holes flat with the rest of the plate.

viperdout 01-04-2005 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Horshu
baleisen: Here's a kicker -> The GPM front suspension arm doesn't even fit with the GPM front deck! The front deck's forward-most screw holes extend the deck out just like with the stock one, but the alloy suspension arms are too thick to clear them. I had to use a dremel to shave the screw holes flat with the rest of the plate.
No suspension arms fit unless you mod the GPM front deck from what I remember. GPM did a terrible job on design. The dogbones are way too tight on the RSX rims, and I have no other parts to compare, except for the lugs, which are 3mm, so the xmod driver doesn't work.

Horshu 01-04-2005 04:30 PM

Yeah, I had problems with their tie rod not fitting under their drive shaft flange (?) in addition to the front diff rubbing against the tie rod teeth, but outside that, they all fit together OK. Overtightening the lugs (I've got those nylon locking ones, but they're 4mm) will lock up the wheels, but then I've got 8 wide track bearings + shims in there, too.

xxxmod 01-04-2005 05:08 PM

viperdout is it worth buying gpm parts or not. it looks like you put a lot of money and time in yours

viperdout 01-04-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by xxxmod
viperdout is it worth buying gpm parts or not. it looks like you put a lot of money and time in yours
I like the dogbones aside from that, but I've seen from inkari's site that the a arms were not thought about. I'd get the bear essentials, like knuckles and dogbones and cups, but otherwise, I'd stay away. I wouldn't want to be modding parts I paid a lot for.

Horshu 01-04-2005 05:39 PM

I've got all the GPM parts (minus the titanium shaft...search the gallery for GPM and RadioShack to see mine), and the only ones that don't fit are the suspension arm due to the deck plate (takes a little bit of shaving) and the tie rod (although my issue may have been due to custom chassis I'm using). The biggest downside to those parts, IMO, is the added weight, as the dremel modding wasn't more than 15 minutes total.

mastersmite 01-04-2005 07:41 PM

knuckles
 
I could definatly use some steering knuckless in blue or yellow for my NSX


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